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I arrange by discs alphabetically on my shelves, but with one catch.  Titles that begin with numbers are treated as if the numbers are written alphabetically.  2001: A Space Odyssey is filed under T, as if the title began with "Two Thousand..."  100 Dalmations is treated as "One Hundred and..."  I used to sort all numerals the way most people do (I imagine), by putting them all before A.  But then, I find it impossible to remember, say, whether it's Twelve Angry Men or 12 Angry Men, whether it's Ten Commandments or 10 Commandments, etc.  If I sort titles the "normal" way, these titles would be at different places on the shelves.  That would be inconvenient for me because I have large shelves that span different rooms.  So I ended up taking the UNIFORM approach: treating all numerals as if they were English words.  That way, if a title begins with a number, it can only be at one place on the shelves, thus no more confusion.  Does anyone here do it like I do?

In a computerized catalog like DVD Profiler, all numbers are sorted before A because that's how computers see them, which can't be changed.  But that doesn't affect me because I can search for titles on a computer without knowing how the computer sorts them.
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Quoting Magmadrag:
Quoting movie_madness:
I believe, because my tool imports heavily from IMDb

But if you import from IMDb without any "control", you import all of their misspellings and mistakes, too?

No doubt about that your tool looks nice and respect for the work you have done.

But I am still one of those "DVDProfiler-Guys", typing cast & crew for one series after another. This way I started to dislike at least parts of the IMDb. Just imagine: You are at the cast & crew of one episode of a series, typing one actor and you find out that you allready have someone with a similiar spelling. So you want to prove (or not) via IMDb and have to find out that they don't have half of the cast (or list some actors credited in other episodes but not in the one your are looking for) and even not half of the crew.

As I mentioned before: It is also done by users (at least the time I remember entering data at IMDb), and useres make mistakes. As IMDB is "oversized", I am not sure if there is half as much of control as we have on this site.

And it is much more work (if it is even possible) to do corrections on IMDb. I had to find out that sometimes they have two (or more) spellings of one person as separate actors (no "common name" thread like here), and without a complete "overwork" of their data, the load of wrong data is growing there.

That's why I am still here, trying do to corrections as much as possible - not getting any denial without a smart explanation.

IMDb has more data than DVD Profiler does or ever will, since more people enter data for IMDb than DVD Profiler.  Every time I add discs into DVD Profiler, I see empty or incomplete cast & crew.  If I have to do manual entries every time, I may as well do it with a tool of my own design where I can design whatever I want.

If I see errors, I correct them in my tool, not on IMDb.  I've seen errors on IMDb that haven't been corrected for years.  But that doesn't affect me because I don't "use" IMDb per se.  I import data from it and have my own "copy" of the data at my disposal.

I make my tool also because of some of DVD Profiler's shortcomings, such as lack of unicode support.  One big shortcoming (to me anyway) of DVD Profiler is its disc-based structure, rather than movie-based.  My tool organizes my collection as movies, and links each movie to a disc. That works much better for me.  That way also makes integration with IMDb easier.

The "mobile" component of DVD Profiler is also woefully inadequate.  You have to put an entire copy of your collection into your smart device.  That's not exactly what mobile means.  A truly mobile experience means your data are on the cloud and accessible from multiple devices.  That's how Collectorz does it.  But that software has its own problems for me.  As I said, I've used practically all commercial tools and ended up having to make my own.
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Quoting DarklyNoon:

This looks amazing, do you make this available for others too?

If I shared my work with others, I would violate IMDb's terms the same way DVD Profiler would, I believe, because my tool imports heavily from IMDb.  Also, my tool doesn't have user submissions, so I have to manually enter every title myself.  There is also no UPC scanning, disc scanning, etc.  What's more, my tool still relies on DVD Profiler to obtain disc detail such as region, studio, wide screen, etc.  If DVD Profiler is gone, I have to manually enter those too.  The big advantage is that since I make it myself, I can put in whatever features I want, such as Leonard Martin's reviews, Pauline Kael's reviews, etc.  And of course I don't have to worry about DVD Profiler going away.

I also have to pay recurring charges for this.  This tool is run on Microsoft Office, which costs $100 a year.  The online version is stored on my private website that costs another $100 a year.  So this is not for everyone.  I only decided to do this because my movie collection is important enough for me to invest such time and effort.  I started doing this in 2014, so I've already put in a lot of time and money on it.  If you totally do it yourself, expect a similar level of investment.  Or hope for another good commercial disc catalog program, which is unlikely.

When you buy streaming movies from places like Vudu or Google, you already get a "library" that is essentially a catalog, where you can sort, filter, wishlist, etc.  So you have no need for a separate catalog program and don't have to spend extra time managing a catalog.  That's another reason why streaming is popular.
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I took matters into my own hands several years ago and made my own cataloguing tool. Disc collecting is already a niche, especially in the era of streaming. If you have a collection so great you need cataloguing, then you belong to a niche of a niche. Other tools like DVD Profiler, All My Movies, Collectorz, Ant Movie Collection, Eric's Movie Database, My Movies Collection, etc. (and I've tried them all) will eventually go the way of DVD Aficionado, the disc cataloguing site that closed last year. Not to mention, they all lack certain features I need. So I used my database and programming skills (used in my day job) to create my own movie database:


It can also be accessed on the Internet:


A big time-saver is that I'm able to import a movie's complete IMDb cast and crew with just one click, which no other tool I know can do.  DVD Profiler has a plugin that imports IMDB cast & crew, but you need to manually copy and paste.  I don't even have to do that.  One mouse-click and everything is imported.

Any commercial tool you use, including Blu-ray.com, is going to risk discontinuation down the road. IMDb used to have a movie-cataloguing feature too, which many of you must have forgotten. Even a site as successful as IMDb had to cut this feature because it was so niche. Therefore, I don't know what other way to do this long-term except take matters into your own hands.
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