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Check out this interview of a movie collector who owns 15,000 movies.  To my astonishment (or maybe not), he says, "I have not watched more than 200 of those titles."  Either he misspeaks, or he really does mean that he has watched fewer than 200 of his vast 15,000-title collection (less than 2% watched).  If so, then he validates one of the points in my original post: collectors with the largest collections are the ones least likely to watch them.
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My purchases of physical discs have actually gone up recently due to buying more niche titles from publishers like Severin, Mondo Macabro, Vinegar Syndrome, Network, Twilight Time, etc.  Some of these niche titles are not on streaming and unlikely to ever be.  I'm all for moving forward to digital, but the reality is that there is a vast subculture of non-mainstream films that are unlikely to go mainstream into digital streaming and will remain on physical discs for the time being.
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There are very few articles on the behavioral aspect of video collecting.  Even with the massive number of collectors both online and in real world, in this forum and other forums like this, on Youtube, social media, etc., there are very few discussions on what exactly movie collectors do and the manners in which they do it.  One article, called "The Contradictions of Video Collecting," written in 1996 by a guy who worked for Criterion at the time, makes a splendid, albeit subjective, attempt at analyzing in nerdy, gritty detail many behavioral aspects of video collecting.  It SHOULD be an interesting read for some of the more serious collectors among us.  The article is available at JSTOR.com, which lets you read 6 articles for free every month.  It was first printed in the Film Quarterly magazine.  It was written during the VHS and laserdisc era, but many of its points are still relevant.

It is a very lengthy article with the following most interesting points:


GENERAL OBSERVATIONS:

- The more time spent on managing one's video collection, the less time available to actually watch them.
- Collectors with the largest collections are the ones least likely to watch them.
- Big collectors may fabricate a potential of limitless viewing pleasure while indulging in the reality of endless collecting.
- The desire to see the collection grow is the one thing shared by all collectors.
- A bravado in video collecting lies in the acquisition of rare items.
- For the collector, ownership is the most intimate relationship one can have to objects.
- It is difficult to differentiate between a collector's creative passion and compulsive consumption.
- It is impossible for anyone other than the collector to understand the collection's importance.
- A film title truly "belongs" to a collector when it is watched in the collector's own surroundings; the same title watched elsewhere doesn't.


ON PHYSICAL DISCS:

- Even though discs are mere holders of the actual film content, that does not negate their physical state as part of their appeal.
- Books that have grown old, turned yellow, tattered, etc., add to the historical pleasure of collecting them; but discs and their packaging must remain as pristine as possible.
- With new and improved disc media, collectors (and restorationists, producers, filmmakers, etc.) feel compelled to improve on what has come before.


ON ADDING TITLES:

- Collectors may have many films they love but haven't added to their collections.
- Their collections may have many titles they don't "love," but watch repeatedly.
- Their collections may have titles they hardly ever watch, but feel obliged to have.
- Their collections may even have titles they "hate," but the many peripheral pleasures of films often help them ignore that hate.  (NOTE: The author may be considering audio commentaries, special features, deluxe packaging, etc. to be such peripheral pleasures.  I confess that sometimes I do buy lesser films based on such peripheral criteria rather than the worth of the film itself.)
- There are "emotional" reasons, whims, irrational thoughts, etc. for adding certain titles to one's collection.
- Questionable rationales for adding certain titles often turn into "reasonable" self-justifications.
- The mood to purchase could evaporate after a delay in purchasing.
- You may browse a store with no intention of buying, but end up buying a title that you might never consider otherwise.
- You may have decided to purchase a title, but left it behind in favor of something else.
- Collectors go through agonizing indecisions and constant weighing of pros and cons that are integral to the "logic" of collecting.
- Collectors don't necessarily add titles they "respect," but titles with a proven capacity to please.
- Titles bought with low expectations often become favorites.
- Such unpredictability threatens to make collecting an exercise of self-deception.
- Collectors are often swayed by technical qualities (picture and sound); thus, a collection may be biased towards films that favor visual style.


ON CATALOGING TITLES:

- Films, with their multiple authors and points of reference, present a cataloging nightmare.
- Cataloging one's collection is the ultimate sign of possessing the collection, a final sign of personality, the final proof of possession.
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Quoting AlunH:
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Like it or not, IMDb is the most complete database of its kind though not 100% perfect.  But imagine what a time-saver it would've been had DVDP had it built-in.  Having 100% curated info collected by real humans is nice, but how is it working out exactly after all these years?  DVDP would be long dead (and we too) and we still wouldn't achieve a satisfactory level of completeness of data.  I have LONG ditched DVDP in favor of a catalog program I designed myself which can import IMDb cast & crew automatically and effortlessly, saving humongous time while still having more complete info than most of you.
I watch a lot of old TV and I like the database to be complete.  If it's not, I'll submit a complete cast list to the database.  Sometimes the prints used for DVD have credits which can be difficult to read, and I'll then check what I *think* the correct spelling of a blurry character's name is against the IMDb.  I have yet to find a single listing which does not have at least one mistake in it.

I don't have a Blu-ray drive in my PC, so when I have to submit credits for a Blu-ray release, I'm reliant on taking pictures with my iPhone and then patiently transcribing them (time consuming and annoying, I know.  I really must get around to buying and fitting a BD drive).  Sometimes my iPhone doesn't take a perfect picture, and again I have to check the spelling of a character's name or actor's name to the IMDb.  Even with recent credits (the ones which the database confirms have been verified) I find mistakes in every single listing.

I'm happy to double-check a spelling of something against the IMDb, or to clarify a typo in an actor's name, but beyond that I wouldn't trust the IMDb's credits an inch.

I've contributed quite a lot of profiles, and I'd say that at least 1000 of my contributions have been complete cast lists for films and TV which I've very carefully checked against the actual credits of the series or film I'm submitting.  That's how having 100% curated information is working out - by some of us putting in a lot of work.

What we really need is a two-tier checking system for a complete cast list which, when verified, is shared across every UPC of that release across all regions.  User DarthFather, for instance, has just put a lot of effort into completing the listing for season five of Elementary.  If a second checker could verify it, there should be away to copy that information immediately across all releases and regions for the series.  That's the one thing that would save time.


By "complete," I mean having a good percentage of titles with cast & crew.  Your efforts would merely yield a *small* percentage of titles with supposedly accurate cast & crew.  And that is not what most people think "complete" means.  And your percentage shrinks every year due to fewer and fewer contributors and more and more new titles every year.  In other words, the data become *more and more incomplete* every year.  There is no point denying such an obvious thing.  This is how Leonard Maltin had to end his movie guide with his supposedly accurate curated info.  The 30,000 titles in his book, no matter how accurate the data and how diligent he was able to keep with curating the data, are no match to the millions of titles at IMDb.
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A lot of other catalog programs have BUILT-IN link to IMDb, and it is sad that the best program of its kind, DVD Profiler, doesn't.  The Cast&Crew 2 plugin is nice, but as mentioned earlier, it is not much of a time-saver as it still requires a lot of mouse-clicks and copying-and-pasting.  In the early 2000s, when DVD Profiler came out and IMDb was still in its relative infancy and not very reliable, ignoring IMDb would seem like a smart move, but now it seems just dumb now.  Like it or not, IMDb is the most complete database of its kind though not 100% perfect.  But imagine what a time-saver it would've been had DVDP had it built-in.  Having 100% curated info collected by real humans is nice, but how is it working out exactly after all these years?  DVDP would be long dead (and we too) and we still wouldn't achieve a satisfactory level of completeness of data.  I have LONG ditched DVDP in favor of a catalog program I designed myself which can import IMDb cast & crew automatically and effortlessly, saving humongous time while still having more complete info than most of you.
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Quoting widescreenforever:
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yes I have installed and run a bought program called Fixme stick..  and the anitivirus is malwarebytes, as well as win 10 windows defender ..


The downside of USB sticks is that it can be written to, should the malware be designed to do it.  Many regular antivirus programs let you create a "boot CD-ROM" or "rescue disk" that you use to boot up the PC and scan for malware.  And a read-only CD cannot be written to.
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no it wasn't malware as the PC was formatted and internet worked ,, brought in a software program which I found out wasn't the vpn  but another program  ..  this program closed the net for me within 24 hours in some cases
now I don't run that program anymore  but use my usual program for the past dozen years ..

and have not had any other problems..

case closed  thanks to all..


And have you formatted your PC after removing that offending program?  If not, then you still have to scan for malware.  What you described sounds like malware behavior to me.  Simply uninstalling the offending program may still leave remnants of the program behind.  It wouldn't hurt to do a malware scan.  It wouldn't hurt to do it regularly even when you don't have problems.
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Quoting widescreenforever:
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second professional looked at the problem and decided a software program I had installed  ( a vpn site) was the culprit. , we removed uninstalled the software & right now the laptop is running quickly and efficiently on the net , I usually bounce back and forth between google chrome and firefox mozilla ..

will monitor this latest fix ..


Were you using this VPN service when you lost Internet connection?

Now that you started looking at this being a possible software problem, I suppose your technician has checked for malware on your PC, because that would be the first and foremost software issue I would think of.  And yes, lots of malware could make you lose Internet connection, often at a specified time decided by the malware's author.
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If Wi-Fi works with your wireless printer but not with the Internet, then it could be your Internet connection that has the problem.  If you are using cable Internet then my guess is your cable modem is not functioning well, which could also be caused by bad cable connection in your neighborhood (which your cable company should fix for you for free).  The next time your Internet connection goes out, reboot your cable modem.  If the Internet comes back on, then you have the answer.  If this is indeed the case, then replacing the network adapter in your laptop will not fix it (which means you just wasted your money).
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Hi, while this plugin lets you retrieve uncredited cast, there doesn't seem to be a way to retrieve uncredited crew (such as in this movie).  Did I miss the feature, or will it be added?  Thanks and a happy new year.
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