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Why is the use of IMDB frowned upon?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMichael_ZZ
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting Evo2Me:
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Rules are guidelines, enforcing them without regard is fascism.

Ah, the good old "If you don't do as I want to, you're a Nazi" argument ... eventually.

Please, do me a favour and get lost.    The rules were not made by any dictator but the community here (more or less) and grew to their present state over time.

And: the rules _were_ guidelines in the past which caused more trouble than anything else. So these guidelines naturally mutated to The Rules.

BTW -- Do me a favour and do not talk about things you don't have the slightest idea of! (If you don't like the way things are handled by this company and this community, you're FREE TO GO at any time ... something you're not in a fascistic regime.)
ZZ -- Once you're grown up, all you can do is grow old.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantEvo2Me
Registered: March 15, 2007
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Skip, the legal part of Ken's post was not attacked by me, actually this is the one point I would always agree upon. I take your use of 'you' in the 'work' sentence to be the general one; I've never been known to not try to track down independent sources for a factual claim.

Darxon, my comment was abstract, not concrete; I did not and do not compare any specific regimes with any discussion [would by pointless since they are different categories]. It is not even that I wrote or meant that anybody here is a fascist. My comment is a rather general one about how things go wrong - it is usually not because some mad criminal takes over but because one stops thinking about the rules.

Somebody asked a very viable question to which he got good answers and bad ones. AFAISI, I gave several reasons on why IMDB may not be a good source. I don't see any one to preclude IMDB info out of hand, as has been done. Which triggered the original question. Asking for citation is good, precluding a source to be cited doesn't seem very sensible to me. Mind, I don't rely on IMDB [rarely use it actually].

In my book it is always good to listen to people not sharing my opinions, even if they use pointed examples, comparisons and language.

To make the - liberal - point: Don't follow rules without thinking. And just because a rule was right in the past does not make it right today or in the future. Following rules blindly [inclu. the majority argument] will inevitably lead to desaster. In the case of DVDP contribution discussions the results will most probably not be deadly.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorlikwit
Registered: March 14, 2007
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what do we do with profiles that are imported from the old DB and have uncredited actors in them (often taken from IMDB)?

with 2.x it was said that if they were entered before a date, leave it but after that date they should be documented.
I suppose that many old profiles are now being transfered with the undocumented uncredited actors to the new DB.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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Well, I can only speak for myself, but for the most part (at times I simply forgot about it... ), I removed them from my newly contributed profiles to the Invelos db.

The rare cases, when uncredited actors actually were confirmed for the IVS profiles are (IMO) small in number compared to the overwhelming figure of undocumented uncredited entries present in the IVS db. Those (relatively) few profiles can easily updated by those who made the documentation back at IVS. The benefit of getting rid of undocumented uncredited entries for good outweighs that little amount of extra work IMO.

Unfortunately, there were (and still are) a lot of users blindly submitting either the data they find on IMDB, or they had backed up from IVS, including oftentimes erronous uncredited data (I can't count how many times I saw actors's entries with (Scenes deleted) appended after the 'uncredited' - a clear rule violation even back at IVS!). It's saddening that the one time opportunity to clean up this mess was (seemingly) missed by the majority of contributors. 
Lutz
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSrehtims
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I really don't understand what is damn hard about copying the credits from the opening and closing credits. Will somebody explain why this is so difficult. I've solved computer problems hardware, software and firmware from one end of the country to the other, from MIT to NASA, from Washington, D.C. to California and I can not see what so hard. If you are so lazy you can perform such a simple task just wait until someone else does it. If you just want to play, find another play pen.
We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
Ineptocracy, You got to love it.
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting Srehtims:
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I really don't understand what is damn hard about copying the credits from the opening and closing credits. [...] If you are so lazy [...].


The answer is out there.....  
Lutz
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