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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMagmadrag
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And the dummy profile is my "guide", too:

Whenver one of the cast & crew in the dummy profile has a count higher than 1, I know that there is someone I need to check.
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And the dummy profile is my "guide", too:

Whenver one of the cast & crew in the dummy profile has a count higher than 1, I know that there is someone I need to check.
OK, I will  think about that. Of course it would be not hard to have a display of all cast / crew with count > 1.
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Also thinking about this:

"A tool which "knows" all the accepted/released BYs and checks all cast & crew in any profile I want it to check if there is any cast/crew WITHOUT a BY but is in the list WITH a BY. So then I know that I have to check this person if I allready have it in my database with one BY or another."

It was easy for me to get all the common names for CLTBoss (latest update I forgot to release). There doesn't seem to be as organized a list of accepted birth years. Am I wrong? Any developer that has code already that gets them?

As far as common names, do they automatically have accepted birth years?
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I found it!!!

http://www.luigifilocamo.it/BY.html

What does it mean when an "accepted" By has "(19??)"? Does that mean BY=0 (no birth year)?

What does this mean: Robert Young (1935-2011)?

Why no middle names?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMagmadrag
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What does it mean when an "accepted" By has "(19??)"? Does that mean BY=0 (no birth year)?


You are right: the "(19??)" means, that for "the other" version(s) of this name no BY is available.
So if there are more than one, then you use Fake-BY like my "David Brown (90??)" - then ?? is filled by the number this person has on imdb, that menas my "David Brown (9030)" on imdb is "David Brown XXX"

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What does this mean: Robert Young (1935-2011)?


Meany BY 1935 and already dead. I don't know why the death years are listed sometimes. Maybe there is another one with the same BY but still alive or with different death date?

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Why no middle names?


I'd like to say that in most of the cases the names with a middle name are unique and are only used by one person? But if neccessary, they are bart of the BY-List like "Michael J. Fox"
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Thanks. I have so many ideas now. You will be amazed.
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Just a thought:

When you download a profile and it has a person w/o birth year, and your local database has the same name with a birthyear, the person in the downloaded profile will get that birthyear. This is the problem that Magmadrag wants to avoid.

But ... what's to say that the exact same thing doesn't happen if you add a profile (without a birthyear) through the API? It might be a good idea to test this - if not already done - before investing a lot of time and effort.
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Just a thought:

When you download a profile and it has a person w/o birth year, and your local database has the same name with a birthyear, the person in the downloaded profile will get that birthyear. This is the problem that Magmadrag wants to avoid.

But ... what's to say that the exact same thing doesn't happen if you add a profile (without a birthyear) through the API? It might be a good idea to test this - if not already done - before investing a lot of time and effort.

A good idea, although much of the effort that part of has already been expended. The other ideas I have are related, but independent of how the data arrives.

I agree it would be interesting to know the answer. If you have a couple of profiles I could use to observe, it would help, since I am on a thin line of understanding this stuff. No rush.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMagmadrag
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Sorry for the question, but what is/means API?

Is this something a usual user should know?
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API stands for "application programming interface", it's a generic term for whenever a software allows a third party (in this case Invelos allows us plugin programmers) to connect to their software with our software.

DVD Profiler has an API that allows plug-ins to read and change the profile database. Not in all ways but at least in certain ways. We do not, however, have direct access to the actual database DVDP is using.

It's basically like you calling the pizza place and order a pizza. You get the guy on the phone (API) and can request your wishes but you do not have access to the kitchen itself (database). But in the end you get your pizza (profile). But if the API doesn't offer you to do something (no, you can't pick and chose your pizza toppings, we only offer standard items), you're out of luck.
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Sausage and peppers please! 

(Well they are pretty standard, IMHO) 
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Sausage and peppers please! 

LOL I just added the last sentence before I read your reply 
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Quoting GSyren:
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Just a thought:

When you download a profile and it has a person w/o birth year, and your local database has the same name with a birthyear, the person in the downloaded profile will get that birthyear. This is the problem that Magmadrag wants to avoid.

But ... what's to say that the exact same thing doesn't happen if you add a profile (without a birthyear) through the API? It might be a good idea to test this - if not already done - before investing a lot of time and effort.
And if that does happen, I can envision a fix. Costly in terms of time, but it will work. Once the profile is saved, I can reload it with a refreshed database pointer and compare, and simply re-write to the database with the BY reset back to zero. It will work this time because the new cast/crew entry will now already be in the database. Actually I would save the entire credit entry and restore it, if I discover the BY is not still zero.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
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And if that does happen, I can envision a fix. Costly in terms of time, but it will work. Once the profile is saved, I can reload it with a refreshed database pointer and compare, and simply re-write to the database with the BY reset back to zero.

I'm not sure that that is going to work. If the added profile contains a birth year, that would mean that Profiler used the existing cast (or crew) record. So changing that birth year would not create a new cast record, but either change the birth year for the existing record or fail, depending on how Profiler handles it internally. At least that's what I think will happen.

What might have a better chance of succeeding would be to assign a fake birth year (like 9999) instead of zero when adding the profile. This would force Profiler to create a new cast entry, which could possibly be changed afterwards to zero. Not sure though if such a change would change the actual database record, or just temporarily change a copy in memory.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMagmadrag
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Not sure if I should post this here or create a new thread as this could be a new tool - if even possible.

The difficulty for the possibiliy is that we don't list the death dates anywhere. If available, Luigi lists them, but if not.....

And I got to this as I had to find out that "Peter Cook (1937 - 1995)" is credited in several profiles as an actor after his death (e. g. "Terra Nova")

So if we would have any list of death dates a tool would be interesting to check out cast & crew, if they are credited after their death. That's only possible for "archive footage". The only chance to question if the credits could be correct is "Production Year - 90 > Birthyear".

It's only a thought (for a future far far away^^) but another way to find out probably wrongly used cast & crew
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So changing that birth year would not create a new cast record, but either change the birth year for the existing record.


In the API you don't really have access to the cast/crew as people. You just can tell a profile that it contains this first, last and middle name with that birth year. There is no way to edit an actual person.
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