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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 181 |
| | Posted: | | | | Cox Cable. Its lightning fast, but I live in a brand new subdivision on the edge of the city. So, that may have something to do with it. As it is, the speed of whatever im downloading from is always the limiting factor. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 66 |
| | Posted: | | | | We use Brighthouse Cable ( Florida ) - and I must say its a wonderful service. Had a few teething troubles the first couple of months ( we live in a brand new esatte and some of those were to do with putting the large cable reels underground! ) but been pretty much trouble free the past couple of years. We switched to VOIP a year and a half ago, so have HD TV, telephone and internet all coming down the same fibre. Even the tech support has been good the few times I needed it ( had some great discussions when I first configured my Apple wireless network and plugged it into the cable modem, they didn't know OS X but were fine working with me to get it all up and running ) |
|  | Hom3r | | 1011+ DVDs and counting |
| Registered: March 28, 2007 |  Posts: 41 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm in the UK and I am with Virgin Cable (used to be NTL)
I have a 10Mbit connection, this is being doubled to 20Mbit download. which will be roughly 2.4MegaBytes a second download. (I get very close to my subscribed speed.)
ADSL is not that good as you have to live next to a exchange to get the subscribed speed.
There are trials for a 50Mbit connection and rumours of a 120Mbit connection by next year. | | | | www.daves-world.co.uk | | | | Last edited: by Hom3r |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting chibul: Quote:
For those of you who have used both, what do you prefer?
I just switched from Comcast (I hate that company with an absolute passion, one of the worst-ran organizations I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with), and now have DirecTV and AT&T DSL. So far, I'm thrilled with the DSL - I haven't noticed any difference at all. Just curious what experiences others may have had. The reality is that unless you are a geek who monitors exact speed constantly, you won't really be able to notice much difference between cable modem and DSL. I had Comcast internet while renting a house during construction of my new home. Both homes are in the same subdivision. Comcast service was fine and was very fast. Now, I have DSL from AT&T (formerly Bellsouth). I cannot tell the difference. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EPKJ: Quote:
Quoting chibul:
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For those of you who have used both, what do you prefer?
I just switched from Comcast (I hate that company with an absolute passion, one of the worst-ran organizations I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with), and now have DirecTV and AT&T DSL. So far, I'm thrilled with the DSL - I haven't noticed any difference at all. Just curious what experiences others may have had.
The reality is that unless you are a geek who monitors exact speed constantly, you won't really be able to notice much difference between cable modem and DSL. I had Comcast internet while renting a house during construction of my new home. Both homes are in the same subdivision. Comcast service was fine and was very fast. Now, I have DSL from AT&T (formerly Bellsouth). I cannot tell the difference. That just means you are lucky enough to be near the head of the queue on the DSL line. Count your blessings! If you don't do a lot of downloading, you probably won't see much of a difference; but if you do, or you visit sites that are very heavy with video and java, the difference is quite noticeable. | | | John
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 52 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
Quoting EPKJ:
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Quoting chibul:
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For those of you who have used both, what do you prefer?
I just switched from Comcast (I hate that company with an absolute passion, one of the worst-ran organizations I've ever had the misfortune of dealing with), and now have DirecTV and AT&T DSL. So far, I'm thrilled with the DSL - I haven't noticed any difference at all. Just curious what experiences others may have had.
The reality is that unless you are a geek who monitors exact speed constantly, you won't really be able to notice much difference between cable modem and DSL. I had Comcast internet while renting a house during construction of my new home. Both homes are in the same subdivision. Comcast service was fine and was very fast. Now, I have DSL from AT&T (formerly Bellsouth). I cannot tell the difference.
That just means you are lucky enough to be near the head of the queue on the DSL line. Count your blessings! If you don't do a lot of downloading, you probably won't see much of a difference; but if you do, or you visit sites that are very heavy with video and java, the difference is quite noticeable. No, it does not. This myth about DSL needs to be disposed of right now. I live nowhere near the phone company and I get great DSL service. I am not at the head of the queue and luck has nothing to do with the quality of my service. I also had DSL in Woodbridge Virginia from Verizon and lived nowhere near the phone company. My service was excellent. There is also a point of diminishing returns. For the average internet user, DSL Light will be more than fast enough for his needs. Everything beyond that speed is icing on the cake. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 315 |
| | Posted: | | | | On DSL your problem will be the associated "containment ratio".
In residential services it's usually (in Europe) 1:50, and in business class services 1:20. Meaning you get 1 packet of yours going thru in every 50 that go thru the line (or 20).
If you are using it at 4:00am for instance, it's natural that there are not even 50 people connected to your phone area commuting facility and so you are actually getting 1:26 or 1:13 or whatever (depending on how many people are using it).
That's why there are people with a 12Mb Dsl line that is "faster" than the one from his neighbor. It has mainly to do with the containment ratio you contracted with your ISP (usually on the small print somewhere).
Then, of course, the distance from the commuting facility is also a factor. It starts degrading at around 650/700 yards, that's the distance limit where you'll have "all the speed" you have contracted. It'll start lowering from then on, slowly at first and then faster, as the distance increases. You should not be away from your providing point more that 2 or 3 miles or the degradation in speed will be quite noticeable already. The faster the connection, the bigger the speed degradation, of course.
Cheers, | | | | With every passing hour our solar system comes forty-three thousand miles closer to globular cluster M13 in the constellation Hercules, and still there are some misfits who continue to insist that there is no such thing as progress. |
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