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But they are being made, evidently, everytime somebody chooses a Common Name. I already do know that the BY populates thoughout the database, and I am fairly certain that the Common Name is doing the same thing. i haven't done a live test, because I don't want to go back and undo the damage. It's bad enough that I am seeing such changes, with absolutely no Contrib notes to tell me what is going on data that has recently been fully audited, and accepted.

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There are other issues here you guys are overlooking, I think. When you adopt a Common Name in Movie X, it poulates throughout the database and replaces ALL of the data that has thus far been entered AS CREDITED. Now if I look at Movie Y, I can sse that a change of some sort has been made, there is no indication whether it is common name or BY and since the made was to Movie X,and I am working on Movie Y, I have no way of knowing either what the change is nor if it is even valid, as I can't access Contribution Notes to see what happened, how do I know which Movie the change was made to. BTW this is a problem that would aslo be shared by any other possible system, so this has to be fixed as wll. It is not any easy solution, gentelmen. God, don't I wish it were

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Skip,

You should try it out before you spread FUD like this. We all know that you would like a system based on an alias file, but Ken has given us a better system that can AND will work just fine.

If what you are claiming was true, how could you do ANY cast and/or crew changes? When you replace any actor and/or crew person with a new one it will only change that entry.

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Try it out?

Has there been a release I missed?

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Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying but I don't want any 'automatic' changes to the credited as field.  Those should match the credits for that particular movie and should be verified before any change is made. 

Scenario 1: DVDProfiler

Movie 1
Cast Member Name: John Doe
Credited As: <blank>, because John Doe is credited as John Doe.

Movie 2
Cast Member Name: John Doe
Credited As: John 'The Unknown' Doe

If, while editing Movie 2, you decide that just "The Unknown" would be a better common name than John Doe, and you change "John Doe" to the "The Unknown" via Edit Cast Member, you currently end up with:

Movie 1
Cast Member Name: The Unknown
Credited As: <blank>, which would mean that he is credited as The Unknown in this movie, when in fact he was
credited as John Doe.

Movie 2
Cast Member Name: The Unknown
Credited As: John 'The Unknown' Doe

Scenario 2: NameVariants

Movie 1
Cast Member Name: John Doe
Credited As: <blank>

Movie 2
Cast Member Name: John 'The Unknown' Doe
Credited As: <blank>

When Namevariants finds these two and you define The Unknown as common name for both, the results are:

Movie 1
Cast Member Name: The Unknown
Credited As: John Doe

Movie 2
Cast Member Name: The Unknown
Credited As: John 'The Unknown' Doe

Precisely what I was describing I believe, Good Guy.

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Precisely what I was describing I believe, Good Guy.

Maybe, but it only happens when you change a common name in your local DB using Edit Cast Member. It should be easy for Ken to fix this. All that needs to be done is copying the previously used name form into the Credited As field if it is empty in a profile that uses this cast member.

I hope you're right, but I am seeing some very weird things.

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For BY I would expect that behavior, but I am seeing the same behavior exhibited by Common Name which I would also expect. But for the moment I am looking forward to some real world testing of Ken's plan.

To reiterate, I don't care what Paul or anyone else THINKS, just because I have a different idea means nothing and is irrelevant. I always have and always will follow Ken wherever he takes the program, when it comes down to it, all of our ideas are irrelevant and the only one that counts is Ken.

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Paul:

I am now below 1000 updates FINALLY, that means I have waded through about 2500 the last two months. Tonight I finally found ONE, my first, update that showed me the new Invelos linkages on the update page. So now I know what I am looking for. What this also tells me is that for all the fuss being raised by some users, including the author of this thread, he is not talking about Invelos, he is ACTUALLY talking about retaining IMDB or some other third party link, which is all I have been seeing. Therefore,... you can probably guess my thoughts on that. Or as I say in my notes

Despite the attempted imposition of certain users to try to demand that I follow the credited AS system, I cannot do that at this time without some form of standards for how we are to determine COMMON name, until that occurs I can ONLY follow AS CREDITED
Note: No Invelos links were harmed during the Production of this Profile.
The Production was supervised by the ASPCA (American Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Aliases) :D

I will not break ANY Invelos links I run into, by the same token NO user will tell me what I have to do to make them happy, I don't care about any third party linkages. Once Ken's system is up and running I will be among the first out of the gate.

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Achim:

You are missing what I am saying, prior to this I was presuming that there was something in the system relative to the Update Evaluation that was not displaying the Invelos links or BY. That has nothing to do with understanding the system.

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