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Re-name Case Type "Box Set" to "Slip Case" and add "Slip Cover"???
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
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OK folks we have all seen this before but we have had several posts lately where users are expressing their frustration over the confusion this case name seems to cause.

Up to this point, it would seem, Ken has chosen to leave the case name the way it is because he prefers it the way it is. So, if you want it to change we have to let Ken know about it.

A few months ago I asked Ken to add "Elite" for the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray DVD cases so I don't think we need a poll for that.

I will set up another poll for the Region 2 case type "Steel Book".

Let's hear it.
Dan
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I'm all for it, been asking for this for a long time.
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well, since i didn't click the majority button, i'll say this...

it's not that i don't have faith if people in general, but having both slip case and slip cover just seems to set the stage for another long string of arguments over which is what and when and why...

but that's just me.

however, we do need to change box set as a case type to slip case.

thank you all for gathering round.

krik
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I don't think it needs to be changed. Is it really that difficult to understand that one word (okay, two words) can mean different things depending on the context? 
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so basically 99.9% of digipaks will now become "slip case" because they have slip cases?
that is ridiculous to me.

on one hand you cannot say that a case type is "digipak" (one. two or even three-disc digipak) because it has one movie, and on the other hand call it a "slipcase" because it has more than one movie in it.
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To me Slip Case and Slip Cover are the same thing. They both contain keep cases, separate digipaks or whatever. The only difference is that one is closed on one side and the other isn't.
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I really don't see a need for Slip Cover, they usually only hold a single movie and are limited when the movie is first released.  I can't see profiling a single movie as Slip Cover when it is housed usually in a keep case.

If your going to add another type I would suggest Steelcase, they are becoming more common for new and re-releases.
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I don't think it needs to be changed. Is it really that difficult to understand that one word (okay, two words) can mean different things depending on the context? 



Apparently it is judging from the questions the newbies ask about it on a regular basis.
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I don't think it needs to be changed. Is it really that difficult to understand that one word (okay, two words) can mean different things depending on the context? 



Apparently it is judging from the questions the newbies ask about it on a regular basis.


I have to agree with Rifter.  I can't tell you how many times I have had to explain the difference between a Box Set profile and a Box Set case type.
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One of the things that concerns me is the similarity between "Slip Case" and "Slip Cover".

Personally, I think we should call the "Slip Cover" cases, "Sleeves" or some such. Anything so that we don't run into confusion again.


Here is an example of what I mean and it's from this thread.

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so basically 99.9% of digipaks will now become "slip case" because they have slip cases?
that is ridiculous to me.

on one hand you cannot say that a case type is "digipak" (one. two or even three-disc digipak) because it has one movie, and on the other hand call it a "slipcase" because it has more than one movie in it.


It is not my intention to single this user out (notice I removed his/her name from the quote). This simply illustrates what I mean about the similarity of the two case names.
Dan
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If your going to add another type I would suggest Steelcase, they are becoming more common for new and re-releases.



why don't you at least read a topic if you're going to reply in it?
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it's not that i don't have faith if people in general, but having both slip case and slip cover just seems to set the stage for another long string of arguments over which is what and when and why...

however, we do need to change box set as a case type to slip case.

What krik said !
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so basically 99.9% of digipaks will now become "slip case" because they have slip cases?
that is ridiculous to me.

on one hand you cannot say that a case type is "digipak" (one. two or even three-disc digipak) because it has one movie, and on the other hand call it a "slipcase" because it has more than one movie in it.


The method of packaging used to hold the disc itself has nothing to do with the outer case that holds it. Slipcase use is seen with individual single disk keep cases, thinpak keep cases, multi disk keep cases, and all kinds of digipack arrangements.
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One of the things that concerns me is the similarity between "Slip Case" and "Slip Cover".

Personally, I think we should call the "Slip Cover" cases, "Sleeves" or some such. Anything so that we don't run into confusion again.


Here is an example of what I mean and it's from this thread.

Quote:
so basically 99.9% of digipaks will now become "slip case" because they have slip cases?
that is ridiculous to me.

on one hand you cannot say that a case type is "digipak" (one. two or even three-disc digipak) because it has one movie, and on the other hand call it a "slipcase" because it has more than one movie in it.


It is not my intention to single this user out (notice I removed his/her name from the quote). This simply illustrates what I mean about the similarity of the two case names.



Just at first glance, I would say a slipcase (notice I used it as one word not two) refers to something that contains more than one item, as in a "case of beer" or a "case of oil" etc.  A slip cover (two words) refers to a single item, like a "canteen cover" or a "pillow cover".  That's just me, though, your mileage may vary.
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I don't think we need to add Slip Cover, with your thread Dan, I am not concerned about confusion or definition, just not terribly certain it really brings any value added to the data.

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One of the things that concerns me is the similarity between "Slip Case" and "Slip Cover".

Personally, I think we should call the "Slip Cover" cases, "Sleeves" or some such. Anything so that we don't run into confusion again.


Here is an example of what I mean and it's from this thread.

Quote:
so basically 99.9% of digipaks will now become "slip case" because they have slip cases?
that is ridiculous to me.

on one hand you cannot say that a case type is "digipak" (one. two or even three-disc digipak) because it has one movie, and on the other hand call it a "slipcase" because it has more than one movie in it.


It is not my intention to single this user out (notice I removed his/her name from the quote). This simply illustrates what I mean about the similarity of the two case names.



Just at first glance, I would say a slipcase (notice I used it as one word not two) refers to something that contains more than one item, as in a "case of beer" or a "case of oil" etc.  A slip cover (two words) refers to a single item, like a "canteen cover" or a "pillow cover".  That's just me, though, your mileage may vary.

Either you missed my point or I'm missing yours.

What you and this user did, is confuse the term "Slip Case" (Box set case) with Slip Cover (sleeve). It has nothing to do with how many words you parse it into. All of the Kriks understand what I'm saying and they were the first to point it out in this thread.

My point on that is, I think we need to call it Sleeve instead of Slip Cover. This would have no effect on Slip Case.
Dan
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