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Quoting Battling Butler:

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STOP posting lies. Blu-ray does NOT have better PQ than HD DVD. Blu-ray does not have extra "bells & whistles" over HD DVD.    One more time  - winning is not the point. You are the only thick-headed, broken record on this forum that ever talks about "winning at all costs" ! 

The concept of winning / losing has nothing to do with HiDef content or playback and means nothing to anyone except fools like you.

Don't you mean STOP posting truths.

HD DVD          PQ  SQ  TOTAL                Blu-ray    PQ      SQ  TOTAL

HighDef        3.97  3.67  3.82                HighDef    3.98    3.85    3.92
HTSpot        4.02  3.87  3.94                  HTSpot  4.02    4.25  4.13
DVDTalk        3.69  3.51  3.60                  DVDTalk  3.63    3.68  3.66
HTForum      4.15  3.82  3.99                HTForum    4.27    4.09  4.18
UpDisc          4.04  3.86  3.95                UpDisc      4.04    4.15  4.09

Totals          3.92  3.71  3.82                  Totals      3.93    3.96  3.94

This is including the bad PQ start Blu-ray had.

Why do you insist on posting meaningless garbage numbers that no one but you cares a rat's A_S about?

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Obviously, you didn't even read your own post.  You know, the one that starts with "STOP posting lies".  That forced me post the truth to stop your lie.  That's how the cycle has been for some time now.

If I were in the Sony marketing department, and I were to read the moronic retarded drivel you expel on such a regular basis, I would unleash all my lawyers to find out where you are and order a cease and desist to stop you using the internet. The harm you are doing to BD's position in this community's otherwise neutral stance on HD formats is immense.

Ken why has this guy still not be banned from the forum?

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Obviously, you didn't even read your own post.  You know, the one that starts with "STOP posting lies".  That forced me post the truth to stop your lie.  That's how the cycle has been for some time now.

If I were in the Sony marketing department, and I were to read the moronic retarded drivel you expel on such a regular basis, I would unleash all my lawyers to find out where you are and order a cease and desist to stop you using the internet. The harm you are doing to BD's position in this community's otherwise neutral stance on HD formats is immense.

Ken why has this guy still not be banned from the forum?

You could be banned for "hateful content".

Last time I checked, one doesn't get sued or banned for telling the truth (unless you are on AVS).  The amount of emotion and the lack of facts from some of you people is stunning at times.

Blah, blah, blah, blah...

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Obviously, you didn't even read your own post.  You know, the one that starts with "STOP posting lies".  That forced me post the truth to stop your lie.  That's how the cycle has been for some time now.

If I were in the Sony marketing department, and I were to read the moronic retarded drivel you expel on such a regular basis, I would unleash all my lawyers to find out where you are and order a cease and desist to stop you using the internet. The harm you are doing to BD's position in this community's otherwise neutral stance on HD formats is immense.

Ken why has this guy still not be banned from the forum?

You could be banned for "hateful content".

Last time I checked, one doesn't get sued or banned for telling the truth (unless you are on AVS).  The amount of emotion and the lack of facts from some of you people is stunning at times.

It's not the truth. It's your interpretation of the "truth" - Big difference. Your claim that b-r has better PQ is total, fabricated crap and you know it. Stop saying you're posting "truth" when all you have ever posted is your own one-track, highly biased opinion.

I just read through this entire tread and one thing I noticed is that very few blu-ray owners want/have the guts to reply.

I think i'm biased toward blu-ray to,  because that was the choice I made and I'm not planning on buying a HD DVD player.

About the use of region coding, I want to give my humble opinion.
As I see it, a lot of you living in the US, should not give a damn about region coding, since most films are released first in the US, and subtitles are of no use for the majority of the us citizens.

Region coding could be usefull for countries outside the US who are native English speaking. (thinking about UK, Ireland, Australia, ...)

All the other hundreds of little (and bigger) countries have other native languages and want subs or even dubbed audio.

So for those, region coding is no problem. Except for those who are realy into movies, like people on this and other dvd forums and understand English perfect.

Mainstream (non native English) consumer will not buy an imported disc withouth subs.

And as I have read many times, people say they buy from Amazon or others and don't need the subs, because they understand what's been said. but their partner, kids, neighbours, friends, can't be invited to watch the movie because their understanding of English is not good enough.

I myself always put on the dutch subs, because there are always parts of the movies where they use slang, or words I don't know. Listening to the English audio and reading the (dutch) subs makes it perfect... and very educational.  And when they translated it wrong, you get a good laugh.

And when the native English speaking community wants a foreign disc, they should wait a bit, just like we have to wait for the majority of dvd, HD DVD and BD releases.

Where I think the first person has a point, is that when there was no "war", prices would have dropped already because of better and faster acceptance of the new format. Now alot of people, including a lot of hardcore filmfanatics in this forum, wait because they want to see who is the winner.

too bad.

Indeed, it is not linked, but every edition has its own subtitles. I have never seen a US release with dutch subtitles. That's why region coding is less a problem than everybody claims it to be.
I have never seen a dutch release with japanese subs, nor vice versa. and so on...

That's part of my point, You are native English speaking. You would indeed benefit from lack of region coding, but all other non-native English speaking people have no gain. When you don't understand the language, I doubt you would buy it.

Eg., a nice German movie without English subs or dubs, are you gonna buy it? think not. That's how you should imagine our situation.

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Doesn't make region coding any less of an issue though. In fact I would suggest it encourages the localisation of titles as there's no point in putting subs on if it's restricted to a certain area.

I agree - having region-free releases does not stop local releases - especially for non-english speaking countries.

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And I do have one title in my collection that doesn't have English subs or dubs on it and I don't speak the spoken language 

It's not Silent Movie is it?