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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsurfeur51
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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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As I said surfeur, even if I bought your sillyl argument, ...


Well, can you explain me why :

must be "Star Wars II : L'attaque des clones"
and
should not be "007- Opération Tonnerre"
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Quoting surfeur51:
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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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As I said surfeur, even if I bought your sillyl argument, ...


Well, can you explain me why :

must be "Star Wars II : L'attaque des clones"
and
should not be "007- Opération Tonnerre"


I would say, and this is my opinion and interpretation of the rules, for Star Wars, the original title contains Episode I, II, III, ... So, the artwork reflects the episode numbering. On the other hand, for the James Bond series, 007 hasn't been part of any title, so I assume here it is just the use of a Logo, which happens to be behind the title. Personally, if it was accepted, I would lock my local database.

I use the sort title to show them all together and in chronological order.
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I would say, and this is my opinion and interpretation of the rules, for Star Wars, the original title contains Episode I, II, III, ... So, the artwork reflects the episode numbering. On the other hand, for the James Bond series, 007 hasn't been part of any title, so I assume here it is just the use of a Logo, which happens to be behind the title. Personally, if it was accepted, I would lock my local database.

I think that rules don't take in account the original title. They say "use the title from the front cover". It is just a matter of consistency. As no exceptions are given in that case by rules, we cannot "choose" when that please us or not. But of course, I understand your wish to lock your local, as I do for all my profiles.

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Personally, if it was accepted, I would lock my local database.

It has already been accepted. All italian James Bond blu-rays have the 007 in their title.
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Well, now I have an extra reason not to upgrade my 007 DVD's to Blu-Ray.

If the rules would be followed strictly for the Benelux releases,

Thunderball would become 007: Thunderball: Opération Tonnere   
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Cver:

At least you understand the proper formnatting, which is more than surfeur did, and refused to acknowledge and correct.

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Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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At least you understand the proper formnatting, which is more than surfeur did, and refused to acknowledge and correct.


Sorry Skip, but the proper formatting may be discussed here. In fact we have in the title a special character that cannot be typed (the gun). For this, rules must be interpreted, as Ken stated :

Quoting Ken Cole:
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Wherever practical, I think a filter would be able to cut out some of the confusion.  For instance, we already have "•" becomes "-". 

I'd love to be able to formulate a simple policy about when to use a character for symbol and when to leave it out.  The key is whether a character is intended, and whether a suitable character exists. To me, I would say that the dots shown in FRIENDS are for display only and not intended as a character, whereas the "•" in WALL•E is clearly intended as a character, which by filter becomes WALL-E.

The botom line is that our title rule is not intended to make the title look exactly like the title on the cover (we have cover scans for that), but to portray the title shown in standard characters.


As I understand Ken's statement, we should use a standard character to portrait the gun, and that is why I propose 007-, which seems better than 007 :

But I agree that this may be discussed.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeGerri Cole
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007 should not be included as part of the title of James Bond films. This has been something that people have long tried to get into the database, even from the early days. The Italian contributions that changed this should not have been accepted. It is possible that Ken feels otherwise, but from my work throughout the years, 007 has never been appropriate for the James Bond films.

It is just a symbol on the cover of the DVD/BluRay, it is not part of the title, IMO.

-Gerri
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Thank you, Gerri. I knew that. Happy now, surfeur. You have the word from on high.

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Thank you, Gerri. I knew that. Happy now, surfeur. You have the word from on high.

Skip

I'm happy too. It proves that there's no such thing as "data" on a DVD cover that must be accepted just because it's there. 
...James

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Oh, good god.

Skip
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I have been fighting for monthes to show that the rule leading to T4xi was stupid. I think that now we can all see that "as on the cover" means nothing more than the opinion of each of us.... 

I'm now waiting for a wording of the rule that will explain, with simple general words that cover all potential cases, that :

must be "Star Wars II : L'attaque des clones"
and
must be just "Opération Tonnerre"
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For easy access to my James Bond films and others like the star trek films, etc.
I have created a manual parent profiles for the title like James Bond, Star Trek, etc. with no collection number, SRP, etc. with the list of the film in their production date in the overview section. Then when I type James Bond in the sort title locates this list. Then if I clear the title all the those child film in that list follows. I also apply James Bond plus its number in the sort title. So, you people argue all you want
No matter what title you people come with I don't give RA.
We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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I have been fighting for monthes to show that the rule leading to T4xi was stupid. I think that now we can all see that "as on the cover" means nothing more than the opinion of each of us.... 

I'm now waiting for a wording of the rule that will explain, with simple general words that cover all potential cases, that :

must be "Star Wars II : L'attaque des clones"
and
must be just "Opération Tonnerre"

ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
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