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| Registered: October 13, 2008 |  Posts: 260 |
| | Posted: | | | | I am trying to find the common name for sound editor: Patricio A. Libenson / Patricio Libenson / Pat Libenson / Patricio Liebenson The CLT counts are inconclusive with him being credited for the same films under multiple names due to profiles being copied from IMDB. Patricio A. Libenson is credited in the following 18 titles (65 profiles): Patricio Libenson is credited in the following 26 titles (200 profiles) Pat Libenson is credited in the following 1 titles (1 profiles): Patricio Liebenson is credited in the following 3 titles (28 profiles): Using CLT, variants of his name seems to be for variants of the following movies/ TV shows . If anybody has any of the following titles could you please let me know what he is credited as. Patricio A. Libenson (2 confirmed)End of the Law (Fugitive Hunter) Honor Knocked Out (Play it to the Bone) One Six Right (confirmed by nohkul) Rob Roy (confirmed by nesowa) Patricio Libenson (9 confirmed)A Love Song for Bobby Long (confirmed by T!M) Die Hard with a Vengeance (confirmed) Hideaway (confirmed) Jackie Brown (confirmed) The Juror Pulp Fiction (confirmed) The Real McCoy (confirmed) Spider-Man (confirmed by Kluge) Stuart Bliss (as an actor)Stuck (confirmed) Supercop (confirmed by CharlieM) Pat Libenson (0 confirmed)Jugular Wine: A Vampire Odyssey Patricio Liebenson (1 confirmed)From Dusk Till Dawn (confirmed) | | | | Last edited: by Rogue.9 |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | 'Speed' is Patricio Libenson, but he's credited as "sound effects editor", so doesn't count. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | 'A Love Song for Bobby Long': Patricio Libenson.
Also, the alledged 'S1m0ne' credit actually is a "foley supervisor" one (as Patricio Libenson), so doesn't count. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Patricio Libenson:
Die Hard with a Vengeance
Speed (Sound Effects Editor)
Starship Troopers (Sound Effects Editor)
Patricio Liebenson:
From Dusk Till Dawn | | | Martin Zuidervliet
DVD Profiler Nederlands |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kluge: Quote:
Spider-Man --> Patricio Libenson He's credited in 'Spider-Man' as Patricio Libenson all right, but it's really not a role we should credit... Yes, technically, you can get away with entering him under the flawed rules, I know that - there's no need to do that debate all over again - but for those who are interested in accurate sound crew, it's important to know that he really didn't do any of the jobs we're tracking in DVD Profiler. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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Spider-Man --> Patricio Libenson
He's credited in 'Spider-Man' as Patricio Libenson all right, but it's really not a role we should credit... Yes, technically, you can get away with entering him under the flawed rules, I know that - there's no need to do that debate all over again - but for those who are interested in accurate sound crew, it's important to know that he really didn't do any of the jobs we're tracking in DVD Profiler. What is his on-screen credit in Spider-Man? I was about to go check that but then saw this, and noticed Patricio Libenson has a "Sound" credit on my local. Is he a Recordist or Sound Supervisor? |
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | I did the Supercop a couple of months ago, and I haven't added any sound crew. Wonder if he's even credited in this. Don't have the DVD now though. | | | | Last edited: by Gemini76 |
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Aviator (085393893927) is Patricio Libenson as "Aviator Sound Recording Supervisor", currently with no credit on this UPC and I don't think this one will qualify. It doesn't sound right to me, but if anyone disagrees please chime in with reasoning. I guess I could argue for "Sound" as it's as close to Sound Supervisor as you can get, but I know how some feel about following rules to the letter. EDIT/Correction. I mis-read, it's not Aviator Sound, it's "Aviation Sound Recording Supervisor", which is basicly sound effects and no credit no matter how you try to make it fit. That's great that not only does he have immproper credits for this movie, but he's not even credited with the right name on his wrong credits!  | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
What is his on-screen credit in Spider-Man? I was about to go check that but then saw this, and noticed Patricio Libenson has a "Sound" credit on my local. Is he a Recordist or Sound Supervisor? He's listed as "sound recordist". Mind you: this is not the kind of "sound recordist" credit that is used in "older films" the rules speak of, nor is it the "sound recordist" that is the U.K. equivalent of the American term "production sound mixer". This is a studio technician assisting the people we actually do track. From the exact location in the end crawl where he's credited, it looks like he may have only been involved with the recording of ADR stuff, and nothing else. In any case, he's not the production sound mixer, nor a (supervising) sound editor, nor a re-recording mixer: all these categories are already catered for with proper credits, and anyone who doesn't want to devaluate his data by listing completely different (and less "important") jobs under the same label, shouldn't enter him for this - despite the flawed rules on the matter. | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rogue.9: Quote:
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Sound Recordist --> INVALID | | | Martin Zuidervliet
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| Registered: May 18, 2007 | | Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | Driven - Not credited |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Daddy DVD: Quote:
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
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INVALID --> PERSONAL OPINION It certainly seems to be valid according to the rules. |
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| Registered: July 8, 2007 | | Posts: 3 |
| | Posted: | | | | Rob Roy R4 Pal UNC 9321337016429 2:10:52
Sound Effects Editors Partico A. Libenson |
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| Registered: October 13, 2008 | | Posts: 260 |
| | Posted: | | | | Patricio A. Libenson (1 confirmed)
End of the Law (Fugitive Hunter)
Hideaway
Honor
Knocked Out (Play it to the Bone)
One Six Right
Rob Roy (confirmed by nesowa)
Patricio Libenson (6 confirmed)
A Love Song for Bobby Long (confirmed by T!M)
Die Hard with a Vengeance (confirmed)
Hideaway
Jackie Brown (confirmed)
The Juror
Pulp Fiction (confirmed)
The Real McCoy
Spider-Man (confirmed by Kluge)
Stuart Bliss (as an actor)
Stuck
Supercop (confirmed by CharlieM)
Pat Libenson (0 confirmed)
Jugular Wine: A Vampire Odyssey
Patricio Liebenson (1 confirmed)
From Dusk Till Dawn (confirmed) | | | | Last edited: by Rogue.9 |
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