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Boxsets and images for individual movies
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorkaput5
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As I interpret the rules (I may be wrong) on the images for the DVDs in a boxset, I understand the following:
- If the DVDs are packaged individually, use the images from that packaging
- If they are all together, like in 2-side DVD, jewel, etc..., use the image of the boxset itself for those DVDs

It means that if a boxset has 8 DVDS, with 8 different movies, they all will have the same image of the boxset and would not be identifiable by picture alone. While it seems the rule may make sense, it seems hard to use for quick review.

I understand that using the regular image may be confusing as it may have a UPC that does not show in the boxset content. However I have seen submission (such as 4 Film Favorites - Steve McQueen Collection) using the standalone DVD images when the 4 movies are on 2 DVDs in a keep case.

Am I correct? Do  miss something?

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I have interpeted the rule the same way you have. 

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If the discs in the box set (disc IDs) were used in a previous release or box set those images win.  So that is why you may be seeing different images for the movies in your box set.  I can't say this is what happened with the Steve McQueen Collection but, may be why the movies have individual cover art.
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Hi Tracer,

This is the case, the studio merely copied the full DVD on dual side and did not change the Disc ID.

However I do not see in the Rules what you are mentioning. I'd like that to be clarified before I make submissions based on that rule (which I like).

Thanks,

Kaput5
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Hi Tracer,

This is the case, the studio merely copied the full DVD on dual side and did not change the Disc ID.

However I do not see in the Rules what you are mentioning. I'd like that to be clarified before I make submissions based on that rule (which I like).

Thanks,

Kaput5

It would fall under the following rule:

If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images.

As the 4 film favorites is a re-release, the cover images can't be contributed.
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It would fall under the following rule:

If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images.

As the 4 film favorites is a re-release, the cover images can't be contributed.


These would not fall under that rule as all four DVDs are packaged in one keepcase with a new UPC. As the main and all child profiles were submittted the same date, it appears the profiles were created by downloading a UPC based profile by discid, changing the existing UPC (each child profiler cover has a UPC), and submitting without changing the scan.

These child profiles should have the scans updated. A DVD with a UPC should not be in the main database by discid, although this seems to have been used as a means to bypass the rule you quoted.
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Thanks for that.  I was under the impression that the originals were valid disc ID profiles.  If they are not, then you are correct, they need to be changed.
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It means that if a boxset has 8 DVDS, with 8 different movies, they all will have the same image of the boxset and would not be identifiable by picture alone.

Yes, but that is just the way the master-db has to be, nothing keeps you from mocking up your covers locally.

My "Beverly Hills Cop: The Complete Line Up" e.g. now looks like this:

Just open the cover in your favorite graphic program, mark the area(s) you want to shade, add a new transparent layer, fill the selection with black and adjust the layer opacity to 80%

For Children of TV-Sets I inserts numbers like "Homicide: Life On The Street: The Complete First Series"
See also "Naked Gun", "Fraggle Rock", "Red Dwarf" and "Quatermass" if you want to see what is possible with only the little knowledge I have of GIMP.


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
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For almost every boxset I have, locally I have original posters (or original solo covers in cases of the 4 film favorites) for the covers and the boxcover for the parent.
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Quoting Mithi:
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...My "Beverly Hills Cop: The Complete Line Up" e.g. now looks like this:
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That's very nice!

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For almost every boxset I have, locally I have original posters (or original solo covers in cases of the 4 film favorites) for the covers and the boxcover for the parent.

I do the same.
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Yeah, I've seen somebody recently trying to change all the images for the Police Academy 4 film set to the original standalone covers.  The difference here is, while the discs themselves might be identical to the standalone releases, the profiles in question have been entered under disc ID, not UPC.  As such, they were specifically added as child profiles, while the UPC versions are the standalone ones.  Effectively, each DVD could potentially have two profiles, the UPC version and the disc ID version.  More often than not, when this is the case the disc ID version has been entered as a multi-movie child profile and the cover art basically should not be messed with if it doesn't match the standalone version...unless of course somebody screwed it up from the jump.
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For almost every boxset I have, locally I have original posters (or original solo covers in cases of the 4 film favorites) for the covers and the boxcover for the parent.

I have started doing the same.
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For almost every boxset I have, locally I have original posters (or original solo covers in cases of the 4 film favorites) for the covers and the boxcover for the parent.

That's what I do for the movie box sets.  Any bright ideas for what to do with TV sets?  There must be something I can put instead of the same cover image for all 4 or 5 discs (ie. Pacific, Band of Brothers, Heroes, Dexter, etc)
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These child profiles should have the scans updated. A DVD with a UPC should not be in the main database by discid, although this seems to have been used as a means to bypass the rule you quoted.


There was a time, we had members entering releases using both the UPC and disc ID.  Basically ignoring this part of the rule "If a title does not have a UPC, then add the title by Disc ID, using your DVD-ROM drive."  This has created problems with some future box set releases where the same disc ID was used.
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That's what I do for the movie box sets.  Any bright ideas for what to do with TV sets?  There must be something I can put instead of the same cover image for all 4 or 5 discs (ie. Pacific, Band of Brothers, Heroes, Dexter, etc)


There are often promo art for each season released by the studios. An image search on Google should give you plenty of alternatives and then maybe you can add title+episodes yourself.
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Well, I am really in a hard situation.

Miss Congeniality (1 and 2) DVDs were released with the same Disc ID at least 3 times:
- Original release - 1 movie only. No problem, use UPC and original cover
- 2 movies boxset - UPC was created for the boxset, the 2 movies were added by Disc ID, Cover of boxset
- 4 movies boxset - UPC created for the boxset, movies already exist by Disc ID, not sure what to do with cover images, as the images are already assigned, but this is not a re-release of the 2 movies boxset...

I guess I am going to quit submitting this one.
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