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Anthony [Stewart] Head: common name?
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Good evening, Sirs,

common name change pending (Anthony Head > Anthony Stewart Head).

CLT: Anthony Stewart Head (323) > Anthony Head (149).

But _lots_ of Buffies for Anthony Stewart Head, so how would you vote?

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I would, of course, vote against that, since we have already established, through a common name-finding thread, that his common name is Anthony Head.

As an aside: Invelos should really do something about the CLT's inability to properly count TV show credits. Given the actual numbers - and their balance - seen in that common-name finding thread, CLT numbers of 323x Anthony Stewart Head and 149x Anthony Head are flat-out ridiculous. From that thread, we know that there are 11 confirmed "Anthony Stewart Head" titles, and there are 13 more that are still listed as unconfirmed. So the maximum would be 24 titles - yet the CLT reports 323 of them. Now I'm sure that many of those are due to user error, but a staggering amount of them is simply caused by the CLT's inability to count TV show credits. If we're supposed to work with the CLT, then very basic issues like this really deserve to be addressed.
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Thank you very much, Sirs! I didn't remember the specific thread. And the forum search, well, try for yourself. Peace out.
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Thank you very much, Sirs! I didn't remember the specific thread. And the forum search, well, try for yourself. Peace out.


A tip! Via google search:

[search] site:invelos.com

So in for this example in Google:

Anthony Head site:invelos.com
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Good evening, Sirs,

common name change pending (Anthony Head > Anthony Stewart Head).

CLT: Anthony Stewart Head (323) > Anthony Head (149).

But _lots_ of Buffies for Anthony Stewart Head, so how would you vote?


A no vote is against rules that say :
"To determine whether to enter the name directly as credited, or to use the "Credited As" field, use the Credit Lookup tool.

It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. If there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person, documentation may be necessary. However, in most cases it is not required."

CLT results are still in favor of Anthony Stewart Head.

Nobody is obliged by rules to search for a common name thread. People who like to work on those useless threads have just to correct profiles if they wish. Until this is done, no votes are not justified.

To be more clear : a contributor needs a common name thread results to go against CLT results. But when you contribute according to present CLT results, no vote is not justified.
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no votes are not justified.

They most certainly are.

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The lookup tool is not to be blindly trusted [...] If a user documents errors in the database where the credit is not entered properly, that can and should be considered.

What about "can and should be considered" don't you get, exactly? Because that's exactly what this is: errors have been documented, in doing so the true common name balance has been established, and per Ken, those findings should be taken into account. Why you keep insisting on using a name variant of which you know that it's the wrong one, is beyond me - but luckily, what you do locally is not my problem. However, when you come out here and state that "no votes are not justified" then you leave me no choice but to point out that that's simply not true. They most certainly are.
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no votes are not justified.

They most certainly are.

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The lookup tool is not to be blindly trusted [...] If a user documents errors in the database where the credit is not entered properly, that can and should be considered.

What about "can and should be considered" don't you get, exactly? Because that's exactly what this is: errors have been documented, in doing so the true common name balance has been established, and per Ken, those findings should be taken into account. Why you keep insisting on using a name variant of which you know that it's the wrong one, is beyond me - but luckily, what you do locally is not my problem. However, when you come out here and state that "no votes are not justified" then you leave me no choice but to point out that that's simply not true. They most certainly are.


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So all 123 episodes of Buffy the Vampire slayer, in which he is credited as Anthony Stewart Head is somehow less than all his other credits combined?
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Why you keep insisting on using a name variant of which you know that it's the wrong one, is beyond me...

  And what do you do with wrong variants of accented names that you find "brilliant" ?
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So all 123 episodes of Buffy the Vampire slayer, in which he is credited as Anthony Stewart Head is somehow less than all his other credits combined?


It appears someone decided to count this as 7 credits. Is there any solid support for counting TV credits per season?
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Is there any solid support for counting TV credits per season?

Only this http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=453430 it would be nice if Invelos gave us some official guidance but for now this is all there is
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http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=453430

This is a forum poll result. Not introduced in rules, no validation by Invelos. Another similar poll result showed a majority to use correctly accented names, and is considered without any value.

Rules are clear:
"It is not necessary to document the source of the common name, outside the use of the CLT. "

CLT results say Anthony Stewart Head, end of game. When CLT will change, Anthony Head will be correct, today it is not.
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So all 123 episodes of Buffy the Vampire slayer, in which he is credited as Anthony Stewart Head is somehow less than all his other credits combined?

Yes. Seriously: what would you expect? That one job somehow overrules a lifetime of credits?
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Seriously: what would you expect? That one job somehow overrules a lifetime of credits?


Of course, since the 123 episodes of the one job were made in one afternoon. 
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No matter how many afternoons it took - it still isn't, and isn't ever going to be, his common name for our purposes.
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