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Nude Nuns with Big Guns
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantmediadogg
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Here is one case where common sense also makes sense.

Common sense and the online database are two different things...

Common sense is the 2 "s", but by the rule it's one "s" (Use the title from the front cover.).

That suck but this is what it is and a poll won't change that...

You cannot convince me that the "Rule" was intended to cause a nonsensical result. If it is only one "s", the  where do you put it? I can see where one would want to discuss issues of rule interpretation when there are two (or more) sensible, yet conflicting results. But when one (or more) of the results is nonsense, why waste the effort?
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If, for design reasons, there was no title at all on the cover would we enter nothing?

Yes
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There should be a third option to those who agrue that the S only belongs after one word.

So, where does is go - after Nun? Or after Gun?

Actually, it could be argued that only the top half of the S is after the word Nun - the bottom half is after the word Gun.
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If it is only one "s", the  where do you put it?

After guns as the "S" is there.

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Actually, it could be argued that only the top half of the S is after the word Nun - the bottom half is after the word Gun.

and it's the bottom part of a letter that count as this is where it starts.
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Common sense is the 2 "s", but by the rule it's one "s" (Use the title from the front cover.)

So which one of those given options in your opinion it is, and why?
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Only one "S" and after gun as the rules say so... we always follow the rules no?
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This is why I usually don't get involved in contribution issues. Seems like the objective of the rule in question is often overlooked in order to pursue a literal interpretation as an end unto itself. Another reason that somebody might choose not to contribute. If the "rule" is interpreted in a fashion that leads to a silly result.

I wonder what is on the disc label, and whether a tool like DVDInfo or DVDPca shows the title as encoded on the disc? That would be the only thing that could convince me otherwise.

I just tried a Google search on "Nude Nun with Big Guns" and "Nude Nuns with Big Gun" - no hits. All the hits were "Nude Nuns with Big Guns."

For the life of me, why would anyone want the Invelos database to be the only place that has the "wrong" result? Unless of course, you are making the point that the rules needs to change ... 

I would counter with the notion that the rule is not the problem. It is the process that focuses on the rule instead of the result.
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You obviously consider the actual title to be 'Nude Nuns with Big Guns' because you used it in the thread title.

Of course, and I have no problem for my local, as I have none to use Taxi 4. But, we are not here about actual title, we are about title that is correct per Invelos rules. In many cases like this one, people asked to reproduce exactly what is on cover, and obviously there is only one s.
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You obviously consider the actual title to be 'Nude Nuns with Big Guns' because you used it in the thread title.

Of course, and I have no problem for my local, as I have none to use Taxi 4. But, we are not here about actual title, we are about title that is correct per Invelos rules. In many cases like this one, people asked to reproduce exactly what is on cover, and obviously there is only one s.


Must be a boring day that you come up with this just to start an argument and then you complain later that there is so much arguing going on here and that this is a hostile forum.

Your first post already doesn't sound like you are trying to get other users opinion, it's already written to stir things up.

Why?
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...exactly what is on cover,...


The word "exactly" does not appear in the rules regarding a DVD's title.

Title rules start only with "Use the title from the front cover."
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T... overlooked in order to pursue a literal interpretation as an end unto itself.

Each time we had a discussion about rules, the literal interpretation was always prefered by the majority to a common sense solution. The most notable are spelling mistakes. Rules do not ask explicitly to reproduce spelling mistakes, they just say "copy exactly". Here, we have "Use the title from the front cover." If we agree to interpret the rule here, why do we not agree to interpret them about other fields ?
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Title rules start only with "Use the title from the front cover."

Without or with interpretation ?
Following the answer, you have T4xi (please tell me how you pronounce that...), or Taxi 4.
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Title rules start only with "Use the title from the front cover."

Without or with interpretation ?
Following the answer, you have T4xi (please tell me how you pronounce that...), or Taxi 4.

Oh man, I'm really stepping in it now, but here goes  :

I would use Title = Taxi 4, and Original Title - T4xi. Again, the objective being to have people recognize the movie and for searches to work. That's the objective.

On the current problem, we have 3 interpretations of what is on the cover - that's the issue. You are assuming that your interpretation is correct. But I interpret the cover the actually mean "Nude Nuns with Big Guns". So, in my world, there is no conflict. The cover reads exactly what I expected.

But I accept that there are two other interpretations of what the cover says. My response is that the other two interpretations lead to a result that nobody else in the world thinks is correct, and is thereby nonsensical.
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Without or with interpretation ?

Without... there are one "s" after gun at that's all, the fact it's a big one is irrelevent.

As strict as they can be sometimes the rules are the rules...
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If one is applying the S to either Nun or Gun even both then you are interpreting the cover. There is only one S and it could be applied to one, the other or both.

One could request a clarification from invelos but I don't believe that is needed since there is a clarification in the rules that can be applied in this case.

"For titles which include periods, dashes, or other symbols, check the credit block on the back of the case if included. If not, check the film credits or opening sequence. Use these to determine whether to exclude or convert the symbol to a standard character such as ".", "-", or "*"'

Only the top half of the letter S appears next to Nun and the bottom half next to Gun.

Since there is no such thing in the alphabet, then it becomes a symbol, the above rule could be applied.

Personally, I believe the time spent arguing over this one title could be better spent fixing and updating many other profiles.
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If one is applying the S to either Nun or Gun even both then you are interpreting the cover. There is only one S and it could be applied to one, the other or both.

One could request a clarification from invelos but I don't believe that is needed since there is a clarification in the rules that can be applied in this case.

"For titles which include periods, dashes, or other symbols, check the credit block on the back of the case if included. If not, check the film credits or opening sequence. Use these to determine whether to exclude or convert the symbol to a standard character such as ".", "-", or "*"'

Only the top half of the letter S appears next to Nun and the bottom half next to Gun.

Since there is no such thing in the alphabet, then it becomes a symbol, the above rule could be applied.

Personally, I believe the time spent arguing over this one title could be better spent fixing and updating many other profiles.


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