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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,510 |
| | Posted: | | | | You can put Gun, Nun, Guns or Nuns for the title (or whatever you think it is), as long as the original title is Nude Nuns with Big Guns, because THAT'S the title of the movie. | | | My one wish for the DVD Profiler online database: Ban or remove the disc-level profiles of TV season sets. It completely screws up/inflates the CLT.
FACT: Imdb is WRONG 70% of the time! Misspelled cast, incomplete cast, wrong cast/crew roles. So for those who want DVD Profiler to be "as perfect as Imdb", good luck with that.
Stop adding UNIT crew! They're invalid credits. Stop it! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nude Nuns with Big Guns — it's pretty obvious. | | | | Corey |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,481 |
| | Posted: | | | | apart from the fact that you get the title from the sidebar .... I think secretly you just couldn't wait to show us your newest kicka*s title......  | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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This was already answered on page one.
Where ??? If you consider this was an answer...
Quoting Scooter1836:
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In the case of "T4xi" That is what is on the DVD title (T4xi) so calling it "Taxi 4" is indeed re-interpreting it and adding since you are adding letters that do not exist.
... I have to disagree. In the case of "Nude Nun...", what is on the DVD title has only one "s", so calling it "Nude Nuns with Big guns", with 2 "s", is also re-interpreting. You are, of course, free to disagree, but that disagreement doesn't make you right anymore than my disagreeing with you makes me right. We just see it differently. Quote:
This is exactly what Grendell calls "bending the rules when it suites you" This I know, but that doesn't make it true, it is simply his opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,716 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nude Nuns with Big Guns | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
You are, of course, free to disagree, but that disagreement doesn't make you right anymore than my disagreeing with you makes me right. My disagreement was about the fact it was an answer to my question. I wonder why nobody is able to explain clearly which interpretation allows to add a "s" for this title and forbid to add a "a" for Taxi 4 or a "r" for Scream 4 . If the answer is so clear, just write a simple rule that clearly requires "T4xi" and clearly forbids "Nude Nun with Big Guns". This rule could then be proposed in the Rules Committee. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: June 21, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nude Nuns with Big Guns! Trivia for ya, there is a film within a film called Nude Nuns with Big Guns in the Grindhouseish new-school classic 'Run! Bitch Run!' They even have the whole thing as a feature on that dvd (only about 4-5 minutes total though) I wonder if this shares anything but the title with that. Either way, it's something I must see soon.  Personally I'd like the rules to be re-written and use the film title from the film, skip the covers and all the silliness those often bring! Then a new section for all the alternate titles it may or may not have, we can do what the covers say in there. The US covers and posters clearly say Nuns and Guns on separate lines. It seems silly to have different titles for the same film region to region because of cover layout.  | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Personally I'd like the rules to be re-written and use the film title from the film, skip the covers and all the silliness those often bring! Totally agree with that.  | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | It says "T4xi" and "Scre4m" on the cover, it's that simple. In your example an over seized "S" is used, stretching over two words. I consider the over seized "s" a symbol because you can't reproduce it in the title field. The rules tell us to convert any symbols to standard characters.
Edit: The same section of the rules also tells us to look at the credit block if we are not sure. | | | | Last edited: by TheDarkKnight |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | This thread reminds why I stay out of these discussions. Too many people would rather follow rules to the extreme than aim for good data.
The purpose of "The Rules" are to ensure we're filling our database with the best data possible so that the application is actually useful. They should never be used to force bad data into the database. ESPECIALLY when it's just being done to prove a point. When "The Rules" are forcing you to enter bad data, the rules need modified.
As a computer programmer, I've worked very, very closely with databases for over 20 years. When something happens at work which would cause useless data to go into the database, we stop and fix it. Bad data is useless at best and at worse could cost a company millions.
After being a member here for well over 10 years now, you'd think I'd be used to it. But I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality some have around here. The amount of time and effort that goes into picking apart the rules just so something stupid can be done astounds me! I'm sorry, but these people fall into the same class as hackers in my book. They sit around all day looking for holes in our security just so they can f*** with everyone and watch the fireworks.
As a paying member here, I'd a little annoyed that Ken allows this crap to continue. My word processor doesn't brag about getting most of what I type. Excel doesn't compute "most" of it's data correctly. My compiler doesn't intentionally insert bugs into my code. Why should I put up with a database for my movies that contains bad data on purpose? | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
This thread reminds why I stay out of these discussions. Too many people would rather follow rules to the extreme than aim for good data.
The purpose of "The Rules" are to ensure we're filling our database with the best data possible so that the application is actually useful. They should never be used to force bad data into the database. ESPECIALLY when it's just being done to prove a point. When "The Rules" are forcing you to enter bad data, the rules need modified.
As a computer programmer, I've worked very, very closely with databases for over 20 years. When something happens at work which would cause useless data to go into the database, we stop and fix it. Bad data is useless at best and at worse could cost a company millions.
After being a member here for well over 10 years now, you'd think I'd be used to it. But I don't think I'll ever understand the mentality some have around here. The amount of time and effort that goes into picking apart the rules just so something stupid can be done astounds me! I'm sorry, but these people fall into the same class as hackers in my book. They sit around all day looking for holes in our security just so they can f*** with everyone and watch the fireworks.
As a paying member here, I'd a little annoyed that Ken allows this crap to continue. My word processor doesn't brag about getting most of what I type. Excel doesn't compute "most" of it's data correctly. My compiler doesn't intentionally insert bugs into my code. Why should I put up with a database for my movies that contains bad data on purpose? In this case the rules do not add a wrong title to the database. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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You are, of course, free to disagree, but that disagreement doesn't make you right anymore than my disagreeing with you makes me right.
My disagreement was about the fact it was an answer to my question. But it was an answer to your question...just not an answer you agree with. Quote:
I wonder why nobody is able to explain clearly which interpretation allows to add a "s" for this title and forbid to add a "a" for Taxi 4 or a "r" for Scream 4 . The answer was quite clear...just not to you. Quote:
If the answer is so clear, just write a simple rule that clearly requires "T4xi" and clearly forbids "Nude Nun with Big Guns". This rule could then be proposed in the Rules Committee. This statement is based on the assumption that the rule does what you say it does. I accept that you believe it does. Based on the posts I have read, not everyone agrees. Now, you can either accept that little fact or you can continue arguing. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
Personally I'd like the rules to be re-written and use the film title from the film, skip the covers and all the silliness those often bring! The original rule used to say, "Use the title from the film's credits." I can't remember when it was changed, but it was changed...by popular demand...and I honestly don't see Ken changing it back.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,321 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheDarkKnight: Quote:
In this case the rules do not add a wrong title to the database. If anything other than "Nude Nuns with Big Guns" makes it into the database, then the system has failed. It's as simple as that. | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here.
Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,198 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
Quoting TheDarkKnight:
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In this case the rules do not add a wrong title to the database.
If anything other than "Nude Nuns with Big Guns" makes it into the database, then the system has failed. It's as simple as that. You are correct, but if it does, it was intentional, and done to make some kind of point...which is what you were pointing out. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mark Harrison: Quote:
If anything other than "Nude Nuns with Big Guns" makes it into the database, then the system has failed. It's as simple as that. I agree with that. And the system has failed when we got some unsearchable T4xi, some non linking actors names with voluntarily added spelling mistakes, or each time we recopy errors knowing they are errors. This title is one of the examples where rules need to be interpreted with common sense, which most people seem to agree in this case, but the same ones often disagree to use common sense for other fields. There is only two solutions : 1/ follow strictly rules and sometimes get stupid results. 2/ interpret rules each time common sense asks to do so. But the solution "2/ for me when I want" and "1/ for the others even if they don't like" is just "bending the rules when it suites you" | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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