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Common name for Bob(by) / Robert (A.) (J.) (R.) Anderson (,) (Jr) (.)
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorawilbohk
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I know IMDB is not a great source, but according IMDB there's a second Robert Anderson with soundcredits. If that's correct Cool it and History Cold Case aren't valid for this thread. Is there anybody who can confirm this or can confirm both Robert Andersons are the same person?


Thanks for your hint. Hopefully someone could help!
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To support the common name thread of AiAustria here the actual common name:

Robert Anderson
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I know IMDB is not a great source, but according IMDB there's a second Robert Anderson with soundcredits. If that's correct Cool it and History Cold Case aren't valid for this thread. Is there anybody who can confirm this or can confirm both Robert Andersons are the same person?

It does seem to me that they're different, and I would therefore propose to remove 'Cool It' and 'History Cold Case: Series 1' from the list. Certainly 'History Cold Case' looks suspect, as that's a UK production with an all-British crew, while our man is an American. They're also both documentaries, and while there are exceptions to every rule, generally production sound mixers like this work on either films/TV or documentaries, but not both.

As for counting the titles: an automated contribution filter ensures that both Robert Anderson, Jr. and Robert Anderson Jr., with and without the comma, are stored as "Robert Anderson, Jr." in the database. So shouldn't those be counted together?
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As for counting the titles: an automated contribution filter ensures that both Robert Anderson, Jr. and Robert Anderson Jr., with and without the comma, are stored as "Robert Anderson, Jr." in the database. So shouldn't those be counted together?


No, they are individual variations of a name.
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No, they are individual variations of a name.

Not to me. Yet another one of those issues that the userbase won't be able to agree on without Ken chiming in... 
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No, they are individual variations of a name.

Not to me. Oh well, it's just another one of those issues that the userbase won't be able to agree without Ken chiming in... Luckily, it doesn't seem to matter in this particular case.



It is the same as Yves saying JOSE SANTANA is José Santana. Individual variants have individual totals.
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It is the same as Yves saying JOSE SANTANA is José Santana.

No, it's most certainly not the same. Why? Because there's no filter for that. Once again, there's an automated contribution filter that ensures that both Robert Anderson, Jr. and Robert Anderson Jr., with and without the comma, are stored as "Robert Anderson, Jr." in the database. So while we can store "José Santana" as a common name in the database, we cannot store Robert Anderson Jr. as a common name in the database. So no, it's certainly not the same.
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This issue was handled here... and answered rather clearly.
List of common name threads - Headshots starting point
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This issue was handled here... and answered rather clearly.

There we are, indeed. Now, with 13+3 titles, Robert Anderson, Jr. gets to 16 titles. If we discount 'Cool It' and 'History Cold Case: Series 1', as they seem to be for a different guy, Robert Anderson only gets to 15 titles.
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This issue was handled here... and answered rather clearly.

Thanks!

So according to the community decision and the two credits are not clear the common name actually is:
Robert Anderson, Jr.
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This issue was handled here... and answered rather clearly.

Thanks!

So according to the community decision and the two credits are not clear the common name actually is:
Robert Anderson, Jr.

Yes, my List of common name threads includes a post (the sixth) with informational threads around the common names... if you are interested, pls. send me a private message...

... and I want to take the oportunity to for a little advertising here: I still need some help to get the job done!! Until now I'm back to August '14 and the only one helping me is Rutan (thank you very much)...
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This issue was handled here... and answered rather clearly.

Thanks!

So according to the community decision and the two credits are not clear the common name actually is:
Robert Anderson, Jr.


Polls are not the final word in contributing. Never have been.
The most used name in the credits is Robert Anderson. 2nd is Robert Anderson, Jr., The most used name that is auto-filter is Robert Anderson Jr. 3 different name variations 3 different totals.

instructions do not say to add unfiltered and auto-filtered together to get a common name. Use the most credited variation for the common name.
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Polls are not the final word in contributing. Never have been.

Not final, but until better ore more information is provided, they reflect the common sense, which IS the final word until Ken overules it.
List of common name threads - Headshots starting point
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Polls are not the final word in contributing. Never have been.

Not final, but until better ore more information is provided, they reflect the common sense, which IS the final word until Ken overules it.



you are confusing consensus with common sense. The poll results show consensus. There is no way to gauge how much common sense went into the vote of each person. There may have been alot of thought in their vote, could be little or no thought.

So I guess if I contribute Robert Anderson as the common name, I'm correct per the rules contribution guidelines. And if someone else contributes Robert Anderson, Jr. as the common name, they're correct per the straw pole of 46 people who visited the forum and took time to vote.
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Confirmed titles:
Robert Anderson
Charlie's Angels: The Complete Series
Masters of Sex: Season 3
Murder of a Cat
Rake: Season 1

Unclear:
Not clear whether this is the same guy:
Home (short film) > listed by imdb for this Robert Anderson
> A History of Ancient Britain (2011) - Age of Romans (4) is also listed by imdb for this guy
Think different

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you are confusing consensus with common sense.

Thanks for nit picking on my English. We have already cleared, that your world is laid between the Pacific ocean in the west and to Atlantic ocean in the east.

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So I guess if I contribute Robert Anderson as the common name, I'm correct per the rules contribution guidelines. And if someone else contributes Robert Anderson, Jr. as the common name, they're correct per the straw pole of 46 people who visited the forum and took time to vote.

No, if you don't accept the common name threads (with all their problems), you ignore Ken, who explicitly allowed documentation of common names contradicting the CLT. You can not chose on a case by case base.
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