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Poll: Capitalizing "Ride with the Devil"
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorateo357
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I'll still vote no to stupidity.

That would be a blatant abuse of the voting privilege. It's perfectly fine to disagree with a certain rule - I personally disagree with a *lot* of them - but it's decidedly not fine to use the voting system to voice that disapproval. So I'll point that out whenever I see it, and I would hope that Invelos deals with that in an appropriate manner.

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If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible.


That's fine. My no votes are not personal at anyone, but I can't bring myself to vote yes, or even neutral on something which is inherently wrong.


I wouldn't worry to much about voting privileges, people still copy IMDB credits and contribute. Rules seem to be only for other people.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorateo357
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rules for spelling are changing all the time - in America, school's accepted Ebonics and now they don't teach cursive.
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19 out of 20 profiles have a man-made, but "wrong" title Ride with the Devil.

The one profile with With had 16 contributions. With the last contribution only altering the title from with to With based on the Invelos capitalization tool auto "correction".

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I'm not sure of your point. It's pretty well established that in English titles, you capitalize all words except for articles, conjunctions and short prepositions, but there's disagreement on whether short prepositions are three letters or less or four letters or less. Invelos could either have us try to figure it out from the cover, which frequently has odd or inconsistent capitalization, or set a uniform rule. A uniform rule means it will sometimes disagree with the cover, but takes ambiguity out of it, which means no edit wars where people change it back and forth.
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19 out of 20 profiles have a man-made, but "wrong" title Ride with the Devil.

The one profile with With had 16 contributions. With the last contribution only altering the title from with to With based on the Invelos capitalization tool auto "correction".




There are 5 (edit 6) that I own that are being changed to With right now. And it is the only change to the profiles.
I put them in the same importance as a genre change or just a ticked color contribution. Lame non-significant total padding contributions.
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19 out of 20 profiles have a man-made, but "wrong" title Ride with the Devil.


Now you did it, those other 19 profiles will have pending updates to change "with" to "With" before the day is out. 
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I'm not sure of your point. It's pretty well established that in English titles, you capitalize all words except for articles, conjunctions and short prepositions, but there's disagreement on whether short prepositions are three letters or less or four letters or less. Invelos could either have us try to figure it out from the cover, which frequently has odd or inconsistent capitalization, or set a uniform rule. A uniform rule means it will sometimes disagree with the cover, but takes ambiguity out of it, which means no edit wars where people change it back and forth.


And some styles don't capitalize those words regardless of length.
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Functionally, it doesn't matter if it is capitalized or not. Fix it locally to suit you, and forget about.
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I just farted

We're used to it.

But the title is Ride with the Devil on American Film Institute.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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I'm not sure of your point.

I case you hadn't figured it out, there is no point, other than to troll the forums because he doesn't like the rule.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorateo357
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I'm not sure of your point.

I case you hadn't figured it out, there is no point, other than to troll the forums because he doesn't like the rule.



Since he is the OP I wouldn't call it trolling. The people who reply without an answer to the question would be the trolls.
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Yes, the tool's use of "With" is ridiculous, as ridiculous as child profiles for individual discs in a single TV series season. But what can you do, they made a rule and here we are.
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Now you did it, those other 19 profiles will have pending updates to change "with" to "With" before the day is out. 

They're not just pending, but are all approved and released - despite invalid no-votes by samuelrichardscott, ateo357 and bbbbb.



So: question asked, question answered (not just by multiple users, but also by Invelos itself), profiles fixed... End of story.
Although we could do this again tomorrow, obviously. 'Dances With Wolves', anyone...?
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End of story.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
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Meh. If you have a life so fulfilling that it allows you the time to make 20 updates to a title which you don't own 20 copies of, more power to you.
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End of story.



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