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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
Registered: March 13, 2007
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I know this has probably been asked and answered but I don't understand the rule for media type. If you have say a blurry dvd  combo why is the main profile media type set as blurry and dvd but then only one child is listed with a media type dvd?

Seems logical that there be a parent listing media type blurry and dvd the 2 children one blurry and one dvd.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
Registered: March 18, 2007
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For combo packs, the main profile contains the details for the main media type, therefore an optional child profile is allowed to capture the details for the secondary media type(s).  A child profile for the main media type in this case would be redundant and not everyone uses the child profiles.

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Sets containing the same film on multiple media types (such as a Blu-ray/DVD combo pack) are to be entered as a normal profile for the main media type (Blu-ray in this example), with all included media types checked. A combo which includes HD media (HD-DVD, Blu-ray) as well as DVD should use the details from the HD media in the main profile. However, you may add an additional profile by Disc ID for the DVD content and add this profile to the Box Set contents for the Blu-ray profile.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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OK the why not have the parent have blurry and the child have dvd

Seems like the way it is now isn't very detailed for proper search results and graph results.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Personally I think that these combo packs should be handled like box sets.

Just plain details in the main profile, no features, no cast, crew. Just data about the case.

Then child profiles for the individual discs.
I think this would more accurately copy the true nature of the pack.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Registered: March 29, 2007
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I personally use the parent like 4K or 3D and only put the information in that profile that pertains to that disc. I remove the information about the children, then lock down those areas. I also have created a custom media type for 3D. 3D may be blu-ray, but you cannot play it without a 3D player or 3D TV. When I search for information about a profile, I only get those entries that actually have that information; (i.e., search for profiles that contain featurettes and you will see the parent and the children. If the 4K or 3D parent truly has featurettes then OK, but if it's only the blu-ray or DVD child that has the featurettes your not getting accurate search results). My 2 pennies.

One last note: Custom media, in my case for 3D only media, will not allow region information because the database was written to not allow it. It works fine on 4K because it was added as a unique media type within the program. The irony to that is, as I understand it, all 4K are region free, but you could set a region other than region free if you so desired, but not for 3D. Bottom line here is if you have a 3D disc, Blu-ray disc and a DVD the parent is completely useless for region information.

One last piece of information. Custom roles for crew members is the best thing since sliced bread as they reflect the actual role, listed in the credits, in the profile. However, if you have Group dividers, and most profiles do, and you accept changes that someone else made to the profile, they will duplicate crew members with custom roles and place them elsewhere with the generic role. I have sent several support tickets about this, but over the years, haven't so much as received even one reply saying it can't be changed or that it's being worked on.

Done now.
Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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Quoting CubbyUps:
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Personally I think that these combo packs should be handled like box sets.

Just plain details in the main profile, no features, no cast, crew. Just data about the case.

Then child profiles for the individual discs.
I think this would more accurately copy the true nature of the pack.

I agree with CubbyUps because it would more accurately handle the individual profile information.
Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Personally, I like it just the way it is.  When I purchase a specific release, I do so based on the Blu-ray.  The DVD, much like the digital copy, is just a bonus and I do not profile it.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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I completely agree with Cubby, is there a way to do this locally without a 4k laptop to find the disc id? At this point on my own it would be a massive project I think.

I also agree with themadmartian this was my second choice I only care about the bluray or 4k uhd the rest is nonesense to me, however on occasion I loan out the dvd portion and using martians idea I cant use that for history or loan purposes. Also on occasion I watch the bluray child of the 4k downstairs with the wife and doing so wont be able to use the history either.

Cubby's idea seems the most logical but alot of work
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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I agree with TheMadMartian.  I'm interested in the main media type and don't profile the "bonus" media type.  If these were treated like box sets then, in my case, DVDProfiler would become completely useless as I wouldn't want to have to create main profiles for every release I have; it would simply defeat the purpose of a communal database.  With that said, I wouldn't mind if the main profile had a way to accommodate all of the information of the secondary media (a.k.a "discs") within the main profile, but I don't like the individual "child" profiles for this instance.

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I completely agree with Cubby, is there a way to do this locally without a 4k laptop to find the disc id? At this point on my own it would be a massive project I think.

I also agree with themadmartian this was my second choice I only care about the bluray or 4k uhd the rest is nonesense to me, however on occasion I loan out the dvd portion and using martians idea I cant use that for history or loan purposes. Also on occasion I watch the bluray child of the 4k downstairs with the wife and doing so wont be able to use the history either.

Cubby's idea seems the most logical but alot of work


Mike, what do you mean by "a way to do this... to find the disc id"?  Are you referring to a way to get the UHD disc ID in order to create separate main profiles?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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I agree with TheMadMartian.  I'm interested in the main media type and don't profile the "bonus" media type.  If these were treated like box sets then, in my case, DVDProfiler would become completely useless as I wouldn't want to have to create main profiles for every release I have; it would simply defeat the purpose of a communal database.  With that said, I wouldn't mind if the main profile had a way to accommodate all of the information of the secondary media (a.k.a "discs") within the main profile, but I don't like the individual "child" profiles for this instance.

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I completely agree with Cubby, is there a way to do this locally without a 4k laptop to find the disc id? At this point on my own it would be a massive project I think.

I also agree with themadmartian this was my second choice I only care about the bluray or 4k uhd the rest is nonesense to me, however on occasion I loan out the dvd portion and using martians idea I cant use that for history or loan purposes. Also on occasion I watch the bluray child of the 4k downstairs with the wife and doing so wont be able to use the history either.

Cubby's idea seems the most logical but alot of work


Mike, what do you mean by "a way to do this... to find the disc id"?  Are you referring to a way to get the UHD disc ID in order to create separate main profiles?


yes thats what I mean, If I were to take the challenge locally and make child profiles for all the dvd and bluray combos i.e. treat every title like a box set I have no way of retreaving all the disc ids from the physical discs becouse I dont have a bluray or 4k player on my laptop.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorrdodolak
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Mike, what do you mean by "a way to do this... to find the disc id"?  Are you referring to a way to get the UHD disc ID in order to create separate main profiles?

yes thats what I mean, If I were to take the challenge locally and make child profiles for all the dvd and bluray combos i.e. treat every title like a box set I have no way of retreaving all the disc ids from the physical discs becouse I dont have a bluray or 4k player on my laptop.

I don't think DVDProfiler has a built-in way to be able to do that without having a drive to retrieve them from the physical discs.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorgreyghost
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Bulkedit plugin will create child profiles from discids in the main profile.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Personally, I like it just the way it is.  When I purchase a specific release, I do so based on the Blu-ray.  The DVD, much like the digital copy, is just a bonus and I do not profile it.

This is the way I view it also.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMike
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Bulkedit plugin will create child profiles from discids in the main profile.


that seems to work perfectly except not all the profiles in the database have disc id's yet Wonder Woman 4k for instance.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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In terms of profiling the main media type, I own a few bluray 3-D combo packs.
The 3-D disc is useless to me.
I've looked at the backs of some of these and the back states that the disc is just the movie in 3-D.
No extras whatsoever.

Yet the main profile includes the extras from the 2-D bluray.
Thus making it appear that the 3-D has extras when in fact it doesn't.
Thus not accurately reflecting what's on the main media types disc.

In the case of Dredd the bluray disc contains both the 3-D and 2-D versions on the one disc. Thus the profile accurately depicts what's on the disc.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCubbyUps
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Quoting scotthm:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Personally, I like it just the way it is.  When I purchase a specific release, I do so based on the Blu-ray.  The DVD, much like the digital copy, is just a bonus and I do not profile it.

This is the way I view it also.

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What about cases where the DVD of the film has all the extras and the bluray is barebones?

Bulletproof Monk combo pack is set up that way.
If you exclude the DVD from the combo pack the main profile is basically barebones. The DVD child has many extras from featurettes to commentary.
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