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Verify Region Coding
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantAgrare
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Is there a way to verify the region coding of a disc other than a region symbol on the disc/case itself? Reason I ask is that I noticed a few discs in my collection that were listed as region 0 but when I checked they have a region 1 symbol on the disc but nothing on the case. And one such disc that is region 0 I did not see a region symbol on it at all so was wondering if there is a program that will tell you what the region is?

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DVDInfo, get it at download.com.
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Try VSO Inspector. I use it for verification of region coding and layering.
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thanks for the quick responses, i'll check those programs out

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I remember somebody mentioning at InterVocative that IFOEdit should be most accurate.
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Quoting ya_shin:
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I remember somebody mentioning at InterVocative that IFOEdit should be most accurate.


It is, but DVDInfo and VSO Inspector are much more user-friendly.
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I remember somebody mentioning at InterVocative that IFOEdit should be most accurate.


It is, but DVDInfo and VSO Inspector are much more user-friendly.

I've experienced that DVD Info Pro has given inaccurate information as to regions, it has identified more regions than what is actually correct; IfoEdit, however, got it right. In most cases DVD Info Pro can be trusted, but not always.
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Also the free Nero Info Tool.
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Quoting ya_shin:
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I remember somebody mentioning at InterVocative that IFOEdit should be most accurate.


To use IfoEdit to verify Regions

Run IfoEdit
place DVD you wish to inspect into DVD Drive
in IfoEdit open 'VIDEO_TS'
in top pane of IfoEdit Select
VMGM_MAT
Display in the Bottom Pane displays information pertaining to that DVD
under the headings:-

Address              Description                                      Value (dec)    Value (hex)
[00000023]        VMG Category, Regional Code mask    237               [ed]
                          Region:  2 enabled.
                          Region:  5 enabled.

This area will display the Regions enabled.
The above numbers (regions 2,5: value 237 etc) where obtained from disc 1 of
Casino Royale.  EAN:5035822350878


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I've experienced that DVD Info Pro has given inaccurate information as to regions, it has identified more regions than what is actually correct; IfoEdit, however, got it right. In most cases DVD Info Pro can be trusted, but not always.

Aren't most of the problems DVDInfoPro has related to the RCE coding thing?  At least that's what I remember about the criticisms directed toward DVDInfoPro.

If you have to do what snarbo says to use IFOEdit, I'd have to agree with northbloke that DVDInfoPro and VSO Inspector are much more user friendly.
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Aren't most of the problems DVDInfoPro has related to the RCE coding thing?  At least that's what I remember about the criticisms directed toward DVDInfoPro.



No, it will also falsely identify regions that are not valid. One of the Bond DVD's is reported as R2 & 4 but if you set the player to R4 it will say you need to switch to R2.

Ifoedit correctly identified it as R2 only.
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It is, but DVDInfo and VSO Inspector are much more user-friendly.

The sad thing is that people will prefer something "user-friendly" even if it doesn't work.

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In most cases DVD Info Pro can be trusted, but not always.

If it can't always be trusted, then it can *never* be trusted. How do you know the DVD you are verifying belongs to the "most case" batch?
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This is why I use many different tools, I use at least two different tools for every title, Sometimes more to seeveral more depending on the circumstances. If you are looking for RCE, There is only one too which will provide that answer, DVDShrink, NOTHING else can be relied on for RCE verification, though to my knowledge RCE has been abandoned even by its most ardent supporter Columbia.

But I have a very full toolbox and I can always get the answer that is needed.

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If you are looking for RCE, There is only one too which will provide that answer, DVDShrink, NOTHING else can be relied on for RCE verification


Actually, the best method is to read the code in the IFO and see if it does RCE or not.  I've done it once or twice just to see how it works, but it's rather pointless to do it on a regular basis.  And it's probably a little too advanced for the average user.  But it is far more reliable than DVDShrink.
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This is why I use many different tools

That only helps if you know what these tools are doing. If all those tools use the same method of reading the region code as DVDInfo Pro does (MMC commands), you will have achieved exactly nothing.

I have explained the entire issue multiple times over at IVS and I remember someone doing it here in a rather detailed way. The region code is stored in multiple locations on a DVD. Tools like DVDInfo Pro use MMC to query the region code from a hidden area. Tools like IfoEdit read it from the file VIDEO_TS.IFO. The region code in that file is almost always set correctly, but some manufacturers forget to set the corresponding region code in the hidden area.

RCE is a completely different issue, and Mark is right, the only reliable method short of an unlimited region-switchable player is a disassembler (which IfoEdit has) and a brain.
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And both brains and IFOEdit are a part of my toolbox...heavy on the brains.

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