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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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If it requires policing, the cost-benefit ratio probably won't be favorable - and considering that there are quite a few forums elsewhere dedicated to hot issues....
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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I'm agreeing with the good Doctor on this one. There are plenty of other forums in which to discuss these matters. In my opinion these discussions shouldn't have been here in the first place, they only ever lead to bad feelings and insult-slinging.
I know of at least one user who has stopped posting directly because of the political threads, and that's one user too many. It's a DVD forum for crying out loud!
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Doctor,


I'd argue that a subscription-only need only be policed to remove potentially libelous material.

If people don't want to risk being offended, they wouldn't have to sign up for access.  Entry would be totally voluntary, and it would be up to the individual to decide whether or not to risk being offended. 

No one would be forced to read anything -- because they could opt out of that particular forum and never see the offensive material again.

Libel is something different -- something Invelos (Ken & Gerry) must guard against, whether or not a P&R forum is set up.

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On the other hand, northbloke makes a good argument against this idea.
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I can see north's point too. However, IF Ken doesn't want to stop the political discussions altogether, then making a separate area for them that YOU have to sign up for does seem to be the best way to go. That way if you're offended by any of the comments it's because you've chosen to be able to see them. As kdh1949 says, it wouldn't need to be moderated any more than the existing areas.
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I have a suggestion which may sound far-fetched :
Let's talk and discuss more about movies (which is sadly lacking in this forum) and leave political discussions to a mininum. I think that would be more fitting in a forum for a DVD collection software, don't you think? 


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Well yes, that would be ideal. However as it currently stands, anything legal is allowed. We're just trying to move some of the more controversial topics to their own area so those of us with no interest (or don't want to be annoyed, etc...) wont see them.
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I have a suggestion which may sound far-fetched :
Let's talk and discuss more about movies (which is sadly lacking in this forum) and leave political discussions to a mininum. I think that would be more fitting in a forum for a DVD collection software, don't you think? 

Why that's just ... heresy!  Talk about movies?  The very idea...
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorm.cellophane
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Why that's just ... heresy!  Talk about movies?  The very idea...

Since the election is over, I actually had time last night to watch a whole movie. From start to finish even! 
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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and considering that there are quite a few forums elsewhere dedicated to hot issues....


That would be like starting a conversation with random strangers

I rather discuss things with people "i know" (as well as one can on a forum that is).
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I think having an "opt in" format for an area where we can discuss politics and current events if we wish is a great idea.

We all come from different backgrounds and have different approaches to things, including DVDs and how we catalogue them.  I think knowing how someone deals with political things helps one understand that person's approach to life and other areas, which directly carries over to how they interact here with others about DVD issues.

I'm interested in hearing the views of people in other countries, even when it ticks me off, and there aren't that many places where I can do that with people who aren't 100% strangers.

Make it an "opt in" area, no harm no foul, and if anybody DOES opt in, they can't go crying to Ken or Gerri is they get their feelings hurt, and no carryover to other areas is allowed.
John

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That's a good idea Rifter.  We have other 'opt-in' forums, why not one for this.  You might want to make the same post over here though.
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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We've seen political arguments erupt and turn into feuds that fuel animosity in other threads, which is why we're trying it this way.  We'll be reconsidering this as well as other aspects of the changes over time.
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Why that's just ... heresy!  Talk about movies?  The very idea...

Since the election is over, I actually had time last night to watch a whole movie. From start to finish even! 


You mean, including the part between the opening and end credits?
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Why that's just ... heresy!  Talk about movies?  The very idea...

Since the election is over, I actually had time last night to watch a whole movie. From start to finish even! 


You mean, including the part between the opening and end credits?

Yes! I found out there's some good stuff in the middle! 
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
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Why that's just ... heresy!  Talk about movies?  The very idea...

Since the election is over, I actually had time last night to watch a whole movie. From start to finish even! 


You mean, including the part between the opening and end credits?


That bit?!?! I only watch that if I need to document uncredited cast 
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Good news from Scotland today as it seems the Westminster government is going to give the green light to new powers for the Scottish parliament.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/2009/09/17/government-moves-to-strengthen-scottish-devolution-86908-21679523/

Hopefully a good result with the independence referendum (if it happens this term) will insure a speedy hand over of corporation tax and an independent state in 10 years after.

Cut it to 20% power or economy to a new level of record growth get control of the benefits system to at last define between the disabled and the jobless work shy cheats and turn Glasgow from being the a r s e crack of Europe to one of it's most affluent.

And lot's more.

Better days ahead 
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