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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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Disregard.
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So, what is the status on this? Ken says:

Case says "Unrated Extended Super Gross-out Version Too Extreme For Theaters", disc has both rated and unrated version = Unrated.

Well, Live Wire may not have an edition but the top banner does state R-rated and Unrated Versions and on the back it has the Unrated standard logo next to the R rating... I'm still a little confused by this.
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As the rule is now, the rating should be entered as R.

"When there is no rating indicated or no rated version of the film on the disc, use the NR rating."

The Unrated indicator is frequently in the Edition field for these.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorThe Movieman
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Don't agree with it (doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the rule change in the first place), but thanks for the clarification nevertheless.
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Ok, another question (sorry), but for something like Fame (2009), the cover says Extended Dance Edition and it has a PG version and Unrated version, so is the rating for that profile now PG? Is it in any case where there are two versions (rated and unrated), the rated one takes prescidence or does the front cover have to say unrated in it? Guess I'm still unsure about this... 
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Don't agree with it (doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the rule change in the first place), but thanks for the clarification nevertheless.

Agreed.  As I said earlier, having an edition of 'Unrated Extended Cut' with an 'R' rating just doesn't make sense to me.  I will, however, abide by the rule...actually I won't as I will just not contribute ratings anymore. 
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Ok, another question (sorry), but for something like Fame (2009), the cover says Extended Dance Edition and it has a PG version and Unrated version, so is the rating for that profile now PG? Guess I'm still unsure about this... 

The way I read it is, if there is a rated version on the disc, that rating is used in the profile.
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Don't agree with it (doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the rule change in the first place), but thanks for the clarification nevertheless.

Agreed.  As I said earlier, having an edition of 'Unrated Extended Cut' with an 'R' rating just doesn't make sense to me.  I will, however, abide by the rule...actually I won't as I will just not contribute ratings anymore. 


Me neither. Not sure where this change came from, but as has been said, it is what it is.
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Ok, another question (sorry), but for something like Fame (2009), the cover says Extended Dance Edition and it has a PG version and Unrated version, so is the rating for that profile now PG? Is it in any case where there are two versions (rated and unrated), the rated one takes prescidence or does the front cover have to say unrated in it? Guess I'm still unsure about this... 


If there's any rated version of the film on the disc, whether it's G, PG, etc... it gets that rating instead of the NR.
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Ok, another question (sorry), but for something like Fame (2009), the cover says Extended Dance Edition and it has a PG version and Unrated version, so is the rating for that profile now PG? Guess I'm still unsure about this... 

The way I read it is, if there is a rated version on the disc, that rating is used in the profile.


Well, good luck to all with this one, lol. If this is the case, got some profile locking to do. 
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Ok, another question (sorry), but for something like Fame (2009), the cover says Extended Dance Edition and it has a PG version and Unrated version, so is the rating for that profile now PG? Is it in any case where there are two versions (rated and unrated), the rated one takes prescidence or does the front cover have to say unrated in it? Guess I'm still unsure about this... 


If there's any rated version of the film on the disc, whether it's G, PG, etc... it gets that rating instead of the NR.


The problem is, earlier in this thread he also said:
"Case says "Unrated Extended Super Gross-out Version Too Extreme For Theaters", disc has both rated and unrated version = Unrated."

So I guess in the case of Fame (09) the rated version goes but for something like Jennifer's Body because it says Unrated on the front, gets the NR status?
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Ok, another question (sorry), but for something like Fame (2009), the cover says Extended Dance Edition and it has a PG version and Unrated version, so is the rating for that profile now PG? Guess I'm still unsure about this... 

The way I read it is, if there is a rated version on the disc, that rating is used in the profile.


Well, good luck to all with this one, lol. If this is the case, got some profile locking to do. 


From the sound of it, there'll be quite a few locking profiles.
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Don't agree with it (doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the rule change in the first place), but thanks for the clarification nevertheless.

Agreed.  As I said earlier, having an edition of 'Unrated Extended Cut' with an 'R' rating just doesn't make sense to me.  I will, however, abide by the rule...actually I won't as I will just not contribute ratings anymore. 


I have to say I don't agree with this change either. Like The Martian I won't bother with submitting the ratings for these releases either... and will just have to lock them locally for now on. 
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Though I will say I am kind of curios why this change to the rules was made... I don't remember ever seeing anyone ever requesting this.
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I will, however, abide by the rule...actually I won't as I will just not contribute ratings anymore. 


As I understand the issue, it is a problem only for titles which include both a rated and unrated version on the same disc.  A random sampling reveals that this occurs in less than 1% of entries.  However, if you're saying you wont contribute ratings anymore, am I not understanding the issue?
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As the rule is now...


As this indicates, no rule is set in stone.  The old rule did not specify how these should be handled - the wording was being interpreted one way by some and the other way by others. 

I'm certainly open to revisiting this - perhaps a poll?
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