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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | For all the Yes voters of both Blu-ray and DVD of region one profile. Please review the profile with the actual end credits you will find the contributer adding bad info per copying the info from the Dutch profile. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 844 |
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| Registered: April 14, 2007 |  Posts: 433 |
| | Posted: | | | | He's also contributed the same update for the region 1 HD-DVD as well. | | | | Chris |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Bob:
The big thing I noticed and that you are willing to accept is that he is GUESSING. Not documenting, not verifying GUESSINGB he even says so specifically. nOW AS HAS BEEN NOTED many times, it is NOT at al uncoomon for women upon marriage to simply move their maiden name to the Middle Name position. I would therefore demand far better documentation than a GUESS.
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | I did not want to be specific because I wanted be to see for themselves instead of taking my word for it. All the Yes voters took the contributers word for his contribution to correct, however he added this to th cast, Son House as Himself, and it is not in the region 1 release (cast is correct as is). Common names have no documentaion, just the CLT. So how do we know if they are the same people.
The biggest problem with these contributions is this user or any like him is just assuming that all info is the same between localities and it is not. This kinda work should be against the rules. | | | | Last edited: by Dragon 6 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 844 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
The big thing I noticed and that you are willing to accept is that he is GUESSING. Not documenting, not verifying GUESSINGB he even says so specifically. nOW AS HAS BEEN NOTED many times, it is NOT at al uncoomon for women upon marriage to simply move their maiden name to the Middle Name position. I would therefore demand far better documentation than a GUESS. http://www.miltonagency.com/la_resumes/make_up/RoeslerKerwin_Tina.pdf do you see the file name? roeslerkerwin_tina lastname_firstname hello? |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote:
The biggest problem with these contributions is this user or any like him is just assuming that all info is the same between localities and it is not. This kinda work should be against the rules. I agree with that & although not currently in the rules, it has been supported by both Ken & Gerri that you should own the specific release if you're contributing to it. Quote:
Common names have no documentaion, just the CLT. So how do we know if they are the same people. Although I fully agree about documenting common names, Ken has said that in most cases CLT details are enough. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | But in this case with the CLT I have found mistakes where it is not the same person. |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | In that cases then a "No" vote is obviously correct, just remember to make it as clear as possible in the limited space for the vote notes. |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bob9000: Quote:
http://www.miltonagency.com/la_resumes/make_up/RoeslerKerwin_Tina.pdf
do you see the file name? roeslerkerwin_tina
lastname_firstname
hello? @ Invelos: can we please, PLEASE address the parsing issue somehow? Despite having the same heated arguments for several years in a row now, there are still double, non-linking entries for literally EVERY three-piece name in the database. There's no sign of improvement whatsoever, and it's abundantly clear we won't figure it out among ourselves. Please? And for the time being, couldn't someone maintain some kind of pinned thread where we track "documented" double last names like this? I'd do it myself, but I really don't think I'm the right person for this, as, for instance, I personally feel that maiden names never qualify as a "middle name"...  | | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is just a shame that Ken came out against going to a single name field... as I think that would solve all parsing problems. I believe we will have parsing problems to go through as long as there is more then one field. No matter what rule Ken decides on.... as we will still have arguments on which field the name(s) belong in. | | | | Pete |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
It is just a shame that Ken came out against going to a single name field... It is indeed.  |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dragon 6: Quote:
however he added this to th cast, Son House as Himself, and it is not in the region 1 release (cast is correct as is) I don't know what the region 1 end credits look like, but Son House is indeed credited on my release - but it's separate from the rest of the cast - at the end of the film the main cast are credited with their names superimposed over a short clip of them. Son House is at the very end of this sequence, just before the screen goes black and you get the "a CRAIG BREWER film" credit. As per the rules anyone credited outside the "standard film credits" (as defined by the rules) goes to the top of the cast list. I believe I also have the same update on my version of the film, and I've checked the CLT and all choices seem to pan out. I can't find anything wrong with the submission. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 281 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yes I know that rule but Son House is archival material and is not listed with the actual end credits. Since when do we add archival material to the profile. per rules: Quote:
For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited Son House is not listed with the end credit order | | | | Last edited: by Dragon 6 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | So in other words, this is not a case of regional credit differences.  The Son House issue was previously discussed in this thread. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Archive or not, Son House is given an on-screen credit, it's just not repeated in the standard cast credit list afterwards. That makes the end credits "non-standard".
The director chose to credit Son House with an appearance on a par with his main cast, it's not up to us to decide that just because it was archive material we don't class it as a credit.
Edit: looks like it James, I thought otherwise till I came across my update, but it looks like it is the "Son House" argument again. | | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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