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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | | -- Enry | | | | Last edited: by White Pongo, Jr. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Enry:
Judging strictly by what you have shown. If Bart's girls, Fight Club figures, Paramedics, etc are part of the cast, then so would everything between Bart's Thugs and Bart's girls be part of the cast as well. I am inclined to think that the Cast list ends with Dead Fighter and the rest is related to the Stunt Team. Interesting to be sure.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,408 |
| | Posted: | | | | Enry,
The R1 version of this, Unleashed (025192-879326), includes in the cast through the Factory Attendants, omitting the fights and stunts section. As this was transfered from version 2 we don't have the original contribution notes.
The section starting with Bart's Girls are definitely cast members. | | | | Registered: February 10, 2002 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Looking at the credits, as I don't own this film, I would say these are 'non-standard credits' as they mix cast and crew together. I would skip all the crew members which, for me, is everything between 'FIGHTS & STUNTS' and 'Bart's girls'.
Not knowing the film, I do not know whether or not 'Factory securities' and 'Factory attendants' are cast. If they are, then I would include them as well. JMHO. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks to all.
Also, how would you enter the credited names with a name in brackets?
For instance,
ROLE CREDITED NAME
Brute1 Cybernic Machine (Nico Stevens)
Brute Trainer Scott Rider (Lionel Bouvard)
Bart's girl Eudes Clara Creantor (Felina)
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Bart's girl Ariadna Cascaval (crazy dancer) | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
Thanks to all.
Also, how would you enter the credited names with a name in brackets?
For instance,
ROLE CREDITED NAME
Brute1 Cybernic Machine (Nico Stevens)
Brute Trainer Scott Rider (Lionel Bouvard)
Bart's girl Eudes Clara Creantor (Felina)
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Bart's girl Ariadna Cascaval (crazy dancer) For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name. For those I would use a divider. Bart's girls Eudes Clara Creantor as Felina Ariadna Cascaval as crazy dancer The others two are a bit more difficult as they don't seem to fit that pattern...  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree with Unicus and the extra screen caps made me pull what little hair I have left.  Now my head is cold. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Aye, this certaily is an odd credit set up. I am glad I didn't have to audit it.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name. For those I would use a divider. Bart's girls is still a group role name. IMO we should not use dividers for group role names. |
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
Quoting EnryWiki:
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Thanks to all.
Also, how would you enter the credited names with a name in brackets?
For instance,
ROLE CREDITED NAME
Brute1 Cybernic Machine (Nico Stevens)
Brute Trainer Scott Rider (Lionel Bouvard)
Bart's girl Eudes Clara Creantor (Felina)
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Bart's girl Ariadna Cascaval (crazy dancer)
For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name. I'm not clear about that. According to a third party db, it would seem that Felina is a stage name used by that actress in other movies as well http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0187139/ Or, it might be sort of a nickname of hers, used together with her name. Quote:
For those I would use a divider.
Bart's girls
Eudes Clara Creantor as Felina
Ariadna Cascaval as crazy dancer
The others two are a bit more difficult as they don't seem to fit that pattern...
"Cybernic Machine" looks like a nickname for Nico Stevens. | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | From my limited knowledge about this film - is it possible some of these people are professional fighters/wrestlers with "stage names" and here they've been credited with both? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
Quoting Unicus69:
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For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name. For those I would use a divider.
Bart's girls is still a group role name. IMO we should not use dividers for group role names. I really don't want to derail Enry's thread, but how would you enter the following then? Chicago Police John Smith Det. Jones Sam Niel Officer Sands Jim Sanders Lt. Burns To me, that is a divider as the actors already have associated roles. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
I'm not clear about that.
According to a third party db, it would seem that Felina is a stage name used by that actress in other movies as well
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0187139/
Or, it might be sort of a nickname of hers, used together with her name. If that is the case, then maybe we should use 'credited as'. The problem then becomes which name goes in which field. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | going along with the nickname theory or the possibility of these being stage name for wrestlers. wouldn't treating it as a nickname (putting it in middle name) work? Similar to "The Rock".
Of course, if they have other credits, using their common name along with a credited as would seem the most logical and easiest solution, though determining a common name might not be easy.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
I really don't want to derail Enry's thread, but how would you enter the following then?
Chicago Police
John Smith Det. Jones
Sam Niel Officer Sands
Jim Sanders Lt. Burns
To me, that is a divider as the actors already have associated roles. I would enter them the same way as we did in profiler 2. Either "John Smith Det. Jones (Chicago Police)" or I would leave the "Chicago Police" completely out of the picture. I have seen both variants in the online database and both fit better to group roles than dividers. Maybe we could ask for a real group role implementation in the feature request forum which does not have the drawbacks of the IMO abuse of dividers for group roles. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | |  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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