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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGSyren
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Hollywood confuses me. When I see the end credits for recent movies I can't help but wonder - why? Why are all these people credited? It used to be that just the people with the main artistic input were credited. Now it is everyone who ever came close to the production.

If I buy a book I get the name of the author. Also the name of the illustrator, if there was one. And the name of the translator, if the book is not in its original language. But that's it. I don't get a listing of who handled the payroll at the publishing company or who brought them lunch. And rightly so, because nobody gives a flying f*ck.

But in movie credits I get that, and everything else. I don't care who pushed the dolly, or who was standby painter. Would I have noticed the difference in the film if it had been someone else? Of course not! So obviously they are not listed for my benefit. So why? It must be an ego thing. And probably backed by some idiot union. (And don't get me wrong, I'm not against unions per se. I was a union rep for many years, but unions over here are so different from unions in the US)
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Hollywood confuses me.

I totally agree with you. For me, what is important is cast (as we see on screen, even uncredited), what we hear watching the movie (music, even non "original"), and main crew (director, composer...). I do not care about unknown crew members, but seeing discussions in  Contribution Rules Committee, I think that not everybody here have the same reasoning. In Invelos world, people accept rules that create fake names for main actors without any remorse, but nitpick about the way to add additional crew... and we get so many unknown "John Smith" in the crew database that it is impossible to know how many different people are hidden behind those names... 
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When I see the end credits for recent movies I can't help but wonder - why? Why are all these people credited?

My guess would be labor union contracts.

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What? You don't want to know who Robert Downey Jr.'s driver is?
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What? You don't want to know who Robert Downey Jr.'s driver is?

And who fetched the pizza for the driver?
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The credits are important for resume reasons and professional pride, so unions lobby for them.
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The credits are important for resume reasons and professional pride, so unions lobby for them.

Don't people in the movie business use CVs? Do they expect employers to watch a bunch of end credits when they look for work? No other product comes with a list of credits like this, so what makes movies so special? 
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The credits are important for resume reasons and professional pride, so unions lobby for them.

Don't people in the movie business use CVs? Do they expect employers to watch a bunch of end credits when they look for work? No other product comes with a list of credits like this, so what makes movies so special? 


Currently, the ability to get into IMDB is a big deal. Not so sure about earlier history.
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The credits are important for resume reasons and professional pride, so unions lobby for them.

I do not think this is the reason. In Wall-E, ~300 babies of crew members were credited, which was not, I think, useful for their own career.
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