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How do you feel about genres?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorDJ Doena
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Although there is currently a contribution up that I voted negatively upon, I don't want it to make about that. I'm just interested in how you treat genres.

Let's for example take Saving Private Ryan, Platoon and M*A*S*H. All deserving of the War genre, yes?

What about Drama? Surely, they all contain the dramatic element. But here's the question: Which war movie doesn't? So isn't it kinda redundant to add the Drama genre as well?`

I could see the argument if someone says "I want to filter from Drama to find a movie I'm in the mood for" but for me there'd be a hug difference for being in the mood for drama like Kramer vs. Kramer and a war drama.

So, I'm just asking, do you fill up the drama slots (independent of contribution) with everything that fits or you select the most poignant genres that fit a particular movie?

PS: Adding the Comedy genre to M*A*S*H, now that is useful because the War / Comedy combo does come unexpected.
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I agree.  I would never add Drama as a genera to a War movie.  In fact there're no genres I would add Drama to 'lower down the list'; (except Television or Animation, which aren't really genres anyway).  I treat Drama as the default one to use if nothing else especially fits, although I will add other genres 'lower down the list' if a Drama contains smaller elements of others.

I try not to have more than two (or occasionally three) genres per movie or TV series.  I have a sort of primary list I try and pick from for the first one in the list and then add one or two others if needed; (plus the 'non-genre' genres if I want, although only Television or Animation get to go at the top.)

For M*A*S*H I'd put Comedy first, then War.  This is because it's really a comedy set in a war setting, rather than a programme about war that's funny. (I realise that makes no real sense, but hay, I'm left-handed, so that's how my brain works.)

Kramer vs. Kramer is a straight Drama, nothing else.

Saving Private Ryan and Platoon are both War, but also Action too.  But I'd put War first, as Action always feels more of a 'mood' or film design, than a 'type' of film.  In fact I think I'd rarely, if ever, put Action as the first genera in the list. 

When I watch a film I actually quite enjoy the process of trying to pigeon-hole it into a genre.  I think I fall into the 'lumper' rather than the 'splitter' group.
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Agree with both of you! Drama is more of a "catch-all" when nothing else fits...
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Quoting DJ Doena:
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What about Drama? Surely, they all contain the dramatic element. But here's the question: Which war movie doesn't? So isn't it kinda redundant to add the Drama genre as well?

I don't think I would ascribe the Drama genre to "war" films like Buck Privates or Operation Pacific.

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I would use drama for films where the war is just the backdrop and not the main focus of the story.

For example I recently watched Tolkien. It features scenes from the first world war, but at least three genres would come before War in my genre listing: Biography (one of my custom genres), Drama and Romance.
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Locally, the way I handle genres is to assign a "primary" genre to the film first, then any secondary genres or other primary genres, and finally any non-genres at the end.  Looking at my local, I have both Platoon and Saving Private Ryan listed as War, Action, Drama, whereas I have Sink the Bismarck as just War, Action and Downfall as just Drama, War.

I basically consider anything a "secondary" genre if a film can be placed in a "primary" genre as well.  Like, almost all Film Noir is also Suspense/Thriller.  Giallo is Horror and/or Suspense/Thriller.  Disaster is usually either Action or Drama.  A Kaiju film is almost always going to be Science-Fiction.  A Martial Arts film is almost always going to be Action.

I consider the non-genres to be mediums, and as such I list them last.

PRIMARY GENRES:
Action
Adventure
Comedy
Documentary
Drama
Exercise (custom)
Experimental (custom genre, primarily for short films from Kenneth Anger & Stan Brakhage)
Fantasy
Horror
Music (concert DVDs, or music videos)
Romance
Science-Fiction
Suspense/Thriller
War
Western

SECONDARY GENRES:
Biography (custom)
Crime
Disaster
Film Noir
German Expressionism (custom)
Giallo (custom)
Kaiju (custom)
Martial Arts
Sports

NON-GENRES
Animation
Anime
Motion Comic
Musical
Performing Arts (custom, for live performances recorded on stage)
Television
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The way i use it is first comes the medium (Television, Documentary etc), then the theme (Science Fiction, War, Fantasy etc), then the genre (Action, comedy etc).

Only custom genres i use, are post-apocalyptic, space scifi and asian.
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> The way i use it is first comes the medium (Television, Documentary etc), then the theme (Science Fiction, War, Fantasy etc), then the genre (Action, comedy etc).

Personally I always put TV last but then tend to lock and not submit as most seem to do what you prefer, start with theme and unless there is a main *strong* theme, do them alphabetically... but each to their own of course - that's what locks are for
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