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Highlander: The Immortal Edition - Correct Scans
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkewlcastud
Registered: April 7, 2007
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Can somebody please tell Skip that the original release of this DVD has a metal tin and inside the metal tin was a dvd case and that the original sealed version of this had a cardboard slipcover on the outside of the metal tin that had the UPC on it.

Skip for some reason believes his copy is the only one if the world that did not come with this slipcover but after showing him proof of sealed copies of the dvd that clearly show the slipcover on the outside of the metal tin, he still does not believe me due to my low contribution numbers because his recollection from 6 years ago trumps all of my documented proof and photos.

Everyone else has confirmed my scans are the original release and how the sealed copies came but Skip still believes that the existing scan of the rear image is correct (actually the existing rear image profile is from the rear image of the DVD located INSIDE the tin, and not the back of the tin itself due to whoever scanned this in originally probably threw away the slipcover and the only thing else that showed the UPC was the inner-DVD, thus the scan of the inside DVD cover as opposed to the back of the blank tin) and says the original release had a UPC code on the cellophane (which everyone knows that a sticker on cellphance is only used to cover up an existing UPC code but in the case even that is wrong because there is NO VISIBLE UPC code on the tin, only on the DVD inside the Tin which was not visible and which could not have been read by a UPC reader at the store). Plain and simple, there was a slipcover over the tin which had the UPC code.

The RULES clearly state that if a DVD is released with a slipcover that the slipcover scan shall rule. The existing profile does not show the true back of the DVD which is of the slipcover over the tin. The existing scan is simply wrong because 1 - it comes from the back of the DVD INSIDE the tin, not the tin itself and 2) the slipcover originally came with this DVD as evident by the copyright notice on the back of the Slipcover and to make sure I called Anchor Bay directly (I work in the film industry and do a lot of business with them) and they confirmed that all of these DVDs originally came with the slipcover....yet presented with all of this including pictures of still sealed DVD's showing my correct scan...I still get ONE no vote from guess who.

Maybe someone else can confirm this since he's obviously not listening to me or accepting my proof (or the other members who 100% agree with me) through Private Messages.

If he wants to keep the existing scan, than keep it locally, but the database should reflect the ORIGINAL RELEASE...with the slipcover.

My scan is not the greatest scan, but it is the CORRECT scan. Hopefully someone else out there can scan a better copy of the slipcase (mine was worn from being folded up and stored inside the DVD case which is where it has been stored since the day I bought it from Best Buy the week it was originanly released).

Please voice your opinion.
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Wahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is my opinion, you can't persuade so you come running here. Big bad Skip is picking on me. Grow up, accept it, Ken himself has said No votes are not the end of the world, I have suggested that we simply agree to disagree but that is not good enough for you, and on top of that even if they were correcct , which from my records it si NOT, your images are crap, you made no attempt to straighten or clean them up and they are clearly shop worn.

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You guys are talking about this puppy right?



The metal slipcase should be the images in the database but if the quality is as poor as skip alludes to then I would keep the current scans in place until such time that the metal slipcase can be re-scanned for better quality images.  Just my opinion...your mileage may vary .
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Registered: March 15, 2007
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kewlcastud,
just let the no vote stand. We've seen in the past that this won't stop a submission if the screeners disagree with it.
Just make sure your notes include all your documentation and let the screeners decide.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkewlcastud
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You guys are talking about this puppy right?



The metal slipcase should be the images in the database but if the quality is as poor as skip alludes to then I would keep the current scans in place until such time that the metal slipcase can be re-scanned for better quality images.  Just my opinion...your mileage may vary .



Correct, that is the DVD in discussion (although your picture doesn't reflect the proper scan). The quality is not as bad as Skip alludes but I agree it can be made better (I said this in my original post) and have asked other users to provide better scans as I am not a photosop wiz. I'm all for getting the correct scans, and good ones at that, in the database so I hope someone will scan a better image....but with the correct image...not the existing one as it is simply wrong. I just want to get the correct images in but Skip is saying this isn't even the correct image which it is (and everyone who has voted on it agrees)...thus this forum post as PM's just made matters worse with him. I'm just trying to get something fixed in the database that I know is wrong and although he may prefer the existing scan, preference should be kept local as mine is the correct Region 1 US official release confirmed by Anchor Bay itself.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkewlcastud
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kewlcastud,
just let the no vote stand. We've seen in the past that this won't stop a submission if the screeners disagree with it.
Just make sure your notes include all your documentation and let the screeners decide.



Thanks. If it doesn't go through on this try, I'll resubmit with hopefully better scans (if someone doesn't beat me to it) and link websites that have pictures of SEALED copies that show my scans are correct as well as the contact info for Anchor Bay if anyone else would like to confirm or dispute it.

But hopefully, thanks to everyone's response on the Contribution itself (who thank me for finally posting the actual pictures of how the DVD originally came) will be enough to get it through even with Skip's No vote as he seems to have made this personal instead of what is correct for the database.

I brought this to the forum simply to garner further support to go along with all of the documentation that shows I am right...instead of Skips vague recollection of 1 DVD out of 4000 that he bought 6 years ago that he can offer 0 proof for.

I appreciate Skips opinion and all he does for the site but my opinion is I'd rather have an ok scan and have it be the correct scan that have an Excellent scan of the wrong image. The rules are clear on having the correct slipcover as the correct database entry and I hope that if this doesn't go through when someone provides better scans of the ORIGINAL release, it will get approved and Skip will agree on it. I would love to agree to disagree but when I know I'm right and its confirmed, I don't give in that easily.
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I appreciate Skips opinion and all he does for the site...

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Actually, if the new image is the correct one, then it shouldn't matter all that much about the quality. A correct scan is better than a wrong scan, quality can be improved. At least a No vote is entirely inadequate and actually not a matter of opinion here.

I have not seen the contribution, so I cannot judge the quality (for all I know it could be "sufficient" or also just a grey blob on the screen).
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Actually, if the new image is the correct one, then it shouldn't matter all that much about the quality. A correct scan is better than a wrong scan, quality can be improved. At least a No vote is entirely inadequate and actually not a matter of opinion here.

I have not seen the contribution, so I cannot judge the quality (for all I know it could be "sufficient" or also just a grey blob on the screen).



I know more than a few users I could direct that precise comment too in a wide variety of ways, Achim.

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I know more than a few users I could direct that precise comment too in a wide variety of ways, Achim.

Skip

That is exactly why I said it

Because I know you wouldn't really use a double standard and hold everybody to the same standard, regardless of any personal preference  
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Regardless of right or wrong in this particular case. The images submitted were just plain LOUSY. I would not submit something that nasty to replace ANYTHING. At best I would vote neutral in this case, because as I told kewl, what I bought on the day of release is exactly what you see. But that aside, like I said don't submit such nasty images and ever expect me to vote yes. He made no attempt to correct coloirs, clean up the images, adjust the black levels and his copy was ever so obviously shop worn and crooked as well.

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These are the images I have. How do they compare?



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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkewlcastud
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As mentioned...someone will hopefully provide better scans if they can find their slipcover...mine was pretty beat up but the images are correct nevertheless. I will try and rescan this weekend but again, I suck at Photoshop. Maybe I'll get them centered correctly and post online and someone who knows photshop can do the cropping and fixing. Unless someone provides better scans by then.



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As mentioned...someone will hopefully provide better scans if they can find their slipcover...mine was pretty beat up but the images are correct nevertheless. I will try and rescan this weekend but again, I suck at Photoshop. Maybe I'll get them centered correctly and post online and someone who knows photshop can do the cropping and fixing. Unless someone provides better scans by then.


Ummm...correct me if I'm wrong, but those images aren't from Highlander...I don't think .
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Wahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There is my opinion, you can't persuade so you come running here.


No offense, Skip, but, as childish as this behavior might be IMHO (taking a disagreement on a submission to the forum for discussion, that is), I don't think that you should belittle anyone walking down a path you yourself treaded wide and often through the woods of DVDP world.

I don't remember any other user taking disagreements over the correctness of contributions or the cast votes to the forums on such a regular basis like you do.

I'm not judging the right or wrong of this behavior (taking submissions and their votes to the forums), and I don't judge the benefits (if any) derived from taking such action.

But if you are entitled to do this, so are others. And if you don't like to be called a cry-baby or whatever else your peers come up with in those moments, you really shouldn't lash out in a similar manner against others, don't you think?
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Edit - see detlefs post.
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