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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | How do we credit "Adapted by" when profiling? Example; The Bride of Frankenstein (1935) Mary Shelley is credited as "suggested by the original story written by" (do we credit OMB?) Just below Mary Shelly in the credits we get "adapted by" William Hurlbut & John Balderston (do we credit these as writers or leave them out?) Then finally we have William Hurlbut credited with "Screenplay" (easy enough profiled). Have at it guys..... Edit; When considering I would profile like this; Mary Shelley - Original Characters by William Hurlbut - Original Story by John Balderston - Original Story by William Hurlbut - Screenwriter | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away! True love conquers all! | | | Last edited: by Berak |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Difficult one - I'd actually give Mary Shelley an OCB credit, as there is no "Bride of Frankenstein" story (although you could argue it's still an adaptation of the original book).
For "adapted by" I'd give screenwriter credits. Although not quite accurate, it's as close as we can get with the options we have. |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Just read your edit - yes, that's a better way of doing it! |
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Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 137 |
| Posted: | | | | I would say your proposed profile is correct, Berak.
What I know about this is, Balderston wrote an original outline basing it on a mere passage from the novel when the creature asks for a mate. Universal then hired Hurblut to expand the outline and flesh out the plot. This used to be known as Screen Story. Hurblut then worked in 4 subsequent drafts into the final screenplay.
So,
Mary Shelley - Original Characters by William Hurlbut - Original Story by John Balderston - Original Story by William Hurlbut - Screenwriter
sounds about right. | | | Funny, these cookies don't taste anything like Girl Scouts.
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| Berak | Bibamus morieundum est! |
Registered: May 10, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting SailorRipley: Quote: I would say your proposed profile is correct, Berak.
What I know about this is, Balderston wrote an original outline basing it on a mere passage from the novel when the creature asks for a mate. Universal then hired Hurblut to expand the outline and flesh out the plot. This used to be known as Screen Story. Hurblut then worked in 4 subsequent drafts into the final screenplay.
So,
Mary Shelley - Original Characters by William Hurlbut - Original Story by John Balderston - Original Story by William Hurlbut - Screenwriter
sounds about right. What would I do without you guys?! The knowledge of this community combined must baffle even Hollywood... | | | Berak
It's better to burn out than to fade away! True love conquers all! |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,777 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: The knowledge of this community combined must baffle even Hollywood... Considering how often we baffle ourselves, I would say that's a given! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Any suggestions for... | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Eric and Samuel get screenwriter, and Gaston gets OMB. If you wanted to, you could give John Jacoby an OMB too, but I'd be tempted to leave him out at least until I knew more about the history of his involvement. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 681 |
| Posted: | | | | Patsa, I would contribute that this way:
Eric Taylor: Screenwriter Samuel Hoffenstein: Screenwriter John Jacoby: Screenwriter Gaston Leroux: Original Material by
John Jacoby's participation is evidently under the "Screenplay-header". Infact, I just recently contributed a similar case (movie: "We're not Married!") - quote from my contribution notes...
"Dwight Taylor's credit changed from "Writer" to "Screenwriter" (source: opening credits of the movie; we see on screen "Screenplay: Nunnally Johnson, Adapted: Dwight Taylor". IMHO Taylor's contribution must therefore be that of screenwriting.)"
... and nobody opposed this change with No-votes. | | | Mika I hate people who love me, and they hate me. (Bender Bending Rodriguez) |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | I have to admit I don't read it that way. I read it as: Screenplay by Eric Taylor and Samuel Hoffenstein, [based on an] adaptation by John Jacoby. That, to me, makes it more OMB than screenwriter. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 681 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I have to admit I don't read it that way. I read it as: Screenplay by Eric Taylor and Samuel Hoffenstein, [based on an] adaptation by John Jacoby. That, to me, makes it more OMB than screenwriter. To be honest, I never even considered that possibility but of course you might be perfectly correct. I have considered credits like these to mean adapted screenplay, i.e. Taylor and Hoffenstein provided the screenplay, which Jacoby then adapted - I guess the fact that "adapted"-credit here (as in my contribution I mentioned) seems to be under the Screenplay-header(?) makes me think the way I do. | | | Mika I hate people who love me, and they hate me. (Bender Bending Rodriguez) | | | Last edited: by Draxen |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I have to admit I don't read it that way. I read it as: Screenplay by Eric Taylor and Samuel Hoffenstein, [based on an] adaptation by John Jacoby. That, to me, makes it more OMB than screenwriter. This is the way I would do it as well, but definitely see how it could be interpreted differently. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Draxen: Quote: To be honest, I never even considered that possibility but of course you might be perfectly correct. I have considered credits like these to mean adapted screenplay That's why I said I'd be tempted to leave him out altogether. It could be read to mean either way! |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Draxen: Quote: I have considered credits like these to mean adapted screenplay, i.e. Taylor and Hoffenstein provided the screenplay, which Jacoby then adapted The reason I read it the other way is because Taylor and Hoffenstein get top billing, which strongly suggests they wrote the final product. If the film had been based on John Jacoby's work, he'd get top billing. Also a screenplay is pretty much always the end of the line. | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: I have to admit I don't read it that way. I read it as: Screenplay by Eric Taylor and Samuel Hoffenstein, [based on an] adaptation by John Jacoby. That, to me, makes it more OMB than screenwriter. I agree. | | | ...James
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks. Listening to the commentary, it seems Jacoby wrote the first screenplay, a very long one (2.5 hours worth of film) but later much of it was discarded, eliminating many of the original scenes and plot lines completely, and new writers were brought in. So while he wrote an adaptation of the novel that I'm sure he intended as a finished screenplay, he didn't write most of the final version that actually went on film. I'm not sure what that makes him exactly so I'm going to leave him out for now. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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