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[Danny the Dog / Unleashed] How would you enter these Brutes, Fighters and Girls?
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Enry:

Judging strictly by what you have shown. If Bart's girls, Fight Club figures, Paramedics, etc are part of the cast, then so would everything between Bart's Thugs and Bart's girls be part of the cast as well. I am inclined to think that the Cast list ends with Dead Fighter and the rest is related to the Stunt Team. Interesting to be sure.

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Enry,

  The R1 version of this, Unleashed (025192-879326), includes in the cast through the Factory Attendants, omitting the fights and stunts section.  As this was transfered from version 2 we don't have the original contribution notes.

    The section starting with Bart's Girls are definitely cast members.
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Looking at the credits, as I don't own this film, I would say these are 'non-standard credits' as they mix cast and crew together.  I would skip all the crew members which, for me, is everything between 'FIGHTS & STUNTS' and 'Bart's girls'.

Not knowing the film, I do not know whether or not 'Factory securities' and 'Factory attendants' are cast.  If they are, then I would include them as well.  JMHO.
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Thanks to all.

Also, how would you enter the credited names with a name in brackets?

For instance,

ROLE                          CREDITED NAME

Brute1                          Cybernic Machine (Nico Stevens)
Brute Trainer                Scott Rider (Lionel Bouvard)

Bart's girl                      Eudes Clara Creantor (Felina)
...
Bart's girl                      Ariadna Cascaval (crazy dancer)
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Thanks to all.

Also, how would you enter the credited names with a name in brackets?

For instance,

ROLE                          CREDITED NAME

Brute1                          Cybernic Machine (Nico Stevens)
Brute Trainer                Scott Rider (Lionel Bouvard)

Bart's girl                      Eudes Clara Creantor (Felina)
...
Bart's girl                      Ariadna Cascaval (crazy dancer)


For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name.  For those I would use a divider.

Bart's girls

Eudes Clara Creantor as Felina
Ariadna Cascaval as crazy dancer

The others two are a bit more difficult as they don't seem to fit that pattern... 
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I agree with Unicus and the extra screen caps made me pull what little hair I have left. Now my head is cold.

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Aye, this certaily is an odd credit set up.  I am glad I didn't have to audit it. 
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For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name.  For those I would use a divider.

Bart's girls is still a group role name. IMO we should not use dividers for group role names.
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Thanks to all.

Also, how would you enter the credited names with a name in brackets?

For instance,

ROLE                          CREDITED NAME

Brute1                          Cybernic Machine (Nico Stevens)
Brute Trainer                Scott Rider (Lionel Bouvard)

Bart's girl                      Eudes Clara Creantor (Felina)
...
Bart's girl                      Ariadna Cascaval (crazy dancer)


For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name.


I'm not clear about that.
According to a third party db, it would seem that Felina is a stage name used by that actress in other movies as well
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0187139/

Or, it might be sort of a nickname of hers, used together with her name.


 
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For those I would use a divider.

Bart's girls

Eudes Clara Creantor as Felina
Ariadna Cascaval as crazy dancer

The others two are a bit more difficult as they don't seem to fit that pattern... 


"Cybernic Machine" looks like a nickname for Nico Stevens.
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From my limited knowledge about this film - is it possible some of these people are professional fighters/wrestlers with "stage names" and here they've been credited with both?
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For 'Bart's girls', it seems like the name in brackets is the role name.  For those I would use a divider.

Bart's girls is still a group role name. IMO we should not use dividers for group role names.


I really don't want to derail Enry's thread, but how would you enter the following then?

Chicago Police

John Smith    Det. Jones
Sam Niel        Officer Sands
Jim Sanders    Lt. Burns

To me, that is a divider as the actors already have associated roles.
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I'm not clear about that.
According to a third party db, it would seem that Felina is a stage name used by that actress in other movies as well
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0187139/

Or, it might be sort of a nickname of hers, used together with her name.


If that is the case, then maybe we should use 'credited as'.  The problem then becomes which name goes in which field. 
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going along with the nickname theory or the possibility of these being stage name for wrestlers. wouldn't treating it as a nickname (putting it in middle name) work? Similar to "The Rock".

Of course, if they have other credits, using their common name along with a credited as would seem the most logical and easiest solution, though determining a common name might not be easy.

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I really don't want to derail Enry's thread, but how would you enter the following then?

Chicago Police

John Smith    Det. Jones
Sam Niel        Officer Sands
Jim Sanders    Lt. Burns

To me, that is a divider as the actors already have associated roles.

I would enter them the same way as we did in profiler 2.
Either "John Smith Det. Jones (Chicago Police)" or I would leave the "Chicago Police" completely out of the picture. I have seen both variants in the online database and both fit better to group roles than dividers.

Maybe we could ask for a real group role implementation in the feature request forum which does not have the drawbacks of the IMO abuse of dividers for group roles.
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