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We need Clarification On 'quotes', and not just voting will get it done.
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Interestingly, Warner Bros catalogue the film as Mister Roberts: The Premiere Collection in their own online database (no quotes):

http://whv.warnerbros.com/WHVPORTAL/Portal/product.jsp?OID=1138
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No Rule change is required.

The quotation marks are not part of title.
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I'm having a hard time understanding this, your upset that Skip contributed Mister Roberts as "Mister Roberts" as the title.  Yet when you tried to do the same thing "Rebel Without a Cause" and "East of Eden" the voters voted it down and the contribution got declined?


A Big Yes.. That is exactly right., 
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Quoting Telecine:
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In relation to titles, the rules state:

"Title
Use the title from the film's credits.

Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these.
Check capitalization of the title.
For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.
For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not
If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language).
Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break, e.g. "Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace".
For music and stage performance DVDs, use the performer or group name followed by the DVD title, separated with a colon and space. For example: "U2: Rattle and Hum", "Ellen Degeneres: The Begining".
Annual DVDs such WWE or NFL Films titles if the year is included it is part of the title and should not be included in the Descriptor field. For Example Title: Year.
The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the Front Cover; for example Alien Quadrilogy. "

It doesn't say anything in the rules about using parentheses. I have bolded the use of parentheses in the rule. No one would suggest that those titles should be recorded with parentheses in the online database.

The rule says Use the title from the film's credits.. In my view, and that of many others, that means use the film credits but that the parentheses are punctuation used to highlight the title and are not part of the title.

A rule change stating that users should not use parentheses would make the matter clearer but I believe that my submission to change the title from "Mister Roberts" to Mister Roberts is well within the ambit and intent of the current rule.


They aren't 'parentheses'; they are 'quotes', or 'quotation marks'.
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Quoting Telecine:
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In relation to titles, the rules state:

"Title
Use the title from the film's credits.

Never add distinguishing factors to the title (such as "Widescreen" or "Special Edition"). Use the Edition field for these.
Check capitalization of the title.
For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word in of the title. "Lord of the Rings" is correctly capitalized. "Lord Of The Rings" is not. "The Matrix Reloaded" is correctly capitalized. "The matrix reloaded" is not.
For non-English titles, use capitalization rules common to the language of the title “Tout va bien” is correctly capitalized. “Tout Va Bien” is not
If the title appears in multiple languages, use the title that matches the language of the locality and do not include an alternate title ( for instance in another language).
Episode descriptors are part of the title; separate them with a colon and space; e.g. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock". For multiple descriptors, use a colon and space for each break, e.g. "Star Wars: Episode I: The Phantom Menace".
For music and stage performance DVDs, use the performer or group name followed by the DVD title, separated with a colon and space. For example: "U2: Rattle and Hum", "Ellen Degeneres: The Begining".
Annual DVDs such WWE or NFL Films titles if the year is included it is part of the title and should not be included in the Descriptor field. For Example Title: Year.
The title for a Box Set should be the title listed on the Front Cover; for example Alien Quadrilogy. "

It doesn't say anything in the rules about using parentheses. I have bolded the use of parentheses in the rule. No one would suggest that those titles should be recorded with parentheses in the online database.

The rule says Use the title from the film's credits.. In my view, and that of many others, that means use the film credits but that the parentheses are punctuation used to highlight the title and are not part of the title.

A rule change stating that users should not use parentheses would make the matter clearer but I believe that my submission to change the title from "Mister Roberts" to Mister Roberts is well within the ambit and intent of the current rule.


They aren't 'parentheses'; they are 'quotes', or 'quotation marks'.


Yes I agree. I had already realised my mistake and begun editing my posts but now you have preserved my error for all time. Thanks.

In my defence, I have had a very long week and am tired.
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cast your vote, let Invelos decide.

@Terry - you say in your vote "WHY were both of mine voted down 90% last week??????????". To be clear, your contributions were not declined because of the votes, they were declined because Invelos thought they should be declined. Votes are a factor but we all know when it comes down to it Invelos makes the final decision no matter what the votes say.

Hopefully they will decide this contribution is correct and it will get approved despite of the mixed vote (which at the moment is 60% to accept  )


BUT  if say - 'hopefully they will decide this contribution is correct and it will get approved despite of the mixed vote ' 
They didn't feel that way with my two contributions from this past week and both mine were declined.

Which is okay with me..,,  BUT  like I',m trying to state here,, "Mister Roberts" will ALSO be declined which means it won't get changed, and we are back to square One..
One in data base with quotes and two without. which is Wrong..
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It's simple, terry. The previous Contributions should not have been accepted. Per Hal9G, it's not a Rule until it is in the Rules, and the Forums at no level are Rules, now I have noted that hal is very convenient in this comment when it suits him he applies it vigorously, when it doesn't suit him he won't. The only person that can do this is Ken via a Rules change or addition.

Skip


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cast your vote, let Invelos decide.

@Terry - you say in your vote "WHY were both of mine voted down 90% last week??????????". To be clear, your contributions were not declined because of the votes, they were declined because Invelos thought they should be declined. Votes are a factor but we all know when it comes down to it Invelos makes the final decision no matter what the votes say.

Hopefully they will decide this contribution is correct and it will get approved despite of the mixed vote (which at the moment is 60% to accept  )


BUT  if say - 'hopefully they will decide this contribution is correct and it will get approved despite of the mixed vote ' 
They didn't feel that way with my two contributions from this past week and both mine were declined.

Which is okay with me..,,  BUT  like I',m trying to state here,, "Mister Roberts" will ALSO be declined which means it won't get changed, and we are back to square One..
One in data base with quotes and two without. which is Wrong..


Well you can help achieve consistency by voting yes to my contribution.
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Interestingly, Warner Bros catalogue the film as Mister Roberts: The Premiere Collection in their own online database (no quotes):

http://whv.warnerbros.com/WHVPORTAL/Portal/product.jsp?OID=1138


The "Official Academy Awards Database" also lists it as Mister Roberts; no quotes.
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I don't have the Mister Roberts title so I can't vote, but I sure wish I was around when the so-called majority approved it with quotes.  Next we'll be arguing that some titles need to be italicized because that's how they appear on film.  This is getting beyond idiotic. 
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But months ago somehow Skip's contribution for "Mister Roberts" got accepted, and Now with Telecine wanting to change this back to 'normal.., It won't get accepted because of the %percentage of votes ,, and it will get denied.


Skip's contribution go accepted because it didn't go through the normal screening process.  Had it gone up for vote, it probably wouldn't have gotten through.

Question...why are you voting 'no'? 



Wrong again, Unicus. have you forgotten IVS already, "Mister Roberts" went through the normal process at IVS where this particular Rule was precisely the same as it is now. It did not go through the process here, but that is irrelevant since you stated it as iit had NEVER gone through...IT HAD and was overwhelmingly approved by all including some of the same people now complaining about it.

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A quick review of my collection reveals the following potential for revised titles based on some people's "views":

“The Cheap Detective”
“…and God Created Woman”
‘Six of a Kind, (George Burns) (yup that's a single quote in front, a comma in back)
‘Every Which Way But Loose’
“Play Misty For Me”
“Blood Alley”
Easy ** ** Rider
“East of Eden”
“Carefree”
“Of Mice and Men”
“A Hard Day’s Night”
“Crossfire”
“Born to Kill”
“They Died With Their Boots On”
“Mighty Joe Young”
***The*** Eagle Has Landed
“About Last Night…”
“White Heat”
“The Big Sleep”
“Young Man With a Horn”
*All The King’s Men*
“Beat the Devil”
The “Petrified Forest”
“A Farewell to Arms”
‘Bullitt’
“The Set-Up”
“Out of the Past”
“The Bachelor and the Bobbie Soxer”
“Night and Day”
Terms of Endearment xxx  (three little cute x's (kissses) at the end of the title)
“I Confess” or Alfred Hitchcock’s “I Confess”
“Dial M for Murder” or Alfred Hitchcock’s “Dial M for Murder”
K*19: The Widowmaker
“Rebel Without a Cause”
“Mister Roberts”
My * Fellow Americans
“Arsenic and Old Lace”
“10”
Operation Petticoat *
Top Gun *
“Life With Father”
‘Vertigo’
“Love Affair”

This is based strictly on cover art.  If the actual film titles are different, these could still be argued to belong in the "Title" field as "modified titles".

It sure is a good thing that a certain individual is no longer making contributions, and hopefully no one else will get the bright idea to submit any of these with quotes or other punctuation or special characters included! 
Hal
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You sadly never disappoint me, Hal.

Skip
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Quoting hal9g:
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A quick review of my collection reveals the following potential for revised titles based on some people's "views":

[...]

This is based strictly on cover art.  If the actual film titles are different, these could still be argued to belong in the "Title" field as "modified titles".


Let's not forget the one that has yet to be addressed, "Kiss Me Deadly" which shows up on screen as 'Deadly" " Kiss Me' 
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You sadly never disappoint me, Hal.

Skip


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Let's not forget the one that has yet to be addressed, "Kiss Me Deadly" which shows up on screen as 'Deadly" " Kiss Me' 

Nah, we'll just skip right by that one...
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