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What's the case type of this parent profile ? (part 1)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantRifter
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Read this... Why most users are choosing "digipak" for Case 2 is because, simply put, that's what it is. Allmost ALL digipaks come in some kind of outer box - with a few exceptions of course. That outer box/sleeve/cover or whatever you want to call it, doesn't turn it into a box set: it's simply part of what a multiple disc "digipak" is. Also: the "slip case" from Case 2 could also contain not a digipak, but a single keepcase with a single movie. It wouldn't be a "box set" then, would it? Once you realize that, it's obvious that you cannot let the outer "slip case" / "slip cover" / whatever decide what to call a "box set" and what not. "Box set" as a case type is only to be used for a kind of box that holds multiple, separately packaged discs, whether they're packaged in keepcases, thinpaks, snappers,...

The thing that most people seem to look at is the disc... "Where is my disc...?" The disc is in a digipak, so that's what they choose.

What needs to be looked at is the item being profiled. When I am profiling the parent profile, I am actually profiling the "container" only, not the disc(s). So the case type that needs to be chosen is the one that represents that "container" the best.

When I am profiling the actual disc (child profile), then I am looking at the "case" that holds the disc.


Now you've got it.
John

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Different uses of the term has no bearing on the case type.

All you have to do is follow the directions and images. If you look at the images and realize that the case type you have listed is different, change it to the correct case type before contributing.
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What needs to be looked at is the item being profiled. When I am profiling the parent profile, I am actually profiling the "container" only, not the disc(s). So the case type that needs to be chosen is the one that represents that "container" the best.


I agree, but that still leaves room for interpretation.
A single multi-disk Digipak is still a container for all the disks, even if it has an extra sleeve around it (slip case or slip cover). It's no different from a single movie Keepcase that has a similar sleeve around it.
So that would make a casetype of 'Digipak' and 'Keepcase' respectively.
Yet, I know from the other thread that you think differently.
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Different uses of the term has no bearing on the case type.

All you have to do is follow the directions and images. If you look at the images and realize that the case type you have listed is different, change it to the correct case type before contributing.


That still doesn't fix the problem, Dan.  There is no choice in the list for 'slip case', but even if there were, it still doesn't help identify the whole unit as a box set.  I agree with Repter and the others that box set is not a case type, but checking digipack on a master profile is MORE wrong than checking box set.
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What needs to be looked at is the item being profiled. When I am profiling the parent profile, I am actually profiling the "container" only, not the disc(s). So the case type that needs to be chosen is the one that represents that "container" the best.


I agree, but that still leaves room for interpretation.
A single multi-disk Digipak is still a container for all the disks, even if it has an extra sleeve around it (slip case or slip cover). It's no different from a single movie Keepcase that has a similar sleeve around it.
So that would make a casetype of 'Digipak' and 'Keepcase' respectively.
Yet, I know from the other thread that you think differently.


You're forgetting the definition of a box set.  The ONLY criteria that applies is whether or not it has two or more movies, or a season's worth of TV episodes.  The packaging is actually irrelevant.  You can change the method of storage but that doesn't alter the fact that it is a box set.  All we're doing when we build a profile is describing what is on the disc(s) and how they are packaged as a unit.
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Different uses of the term has no bearing on the case type.

All you have to do is follow the directions and images. If you look at the images and realize that the case type you have listed is different, change it to the correct case type before contributing.


That still doesn't fix the problem, Dan.  There is no choice in the list for 'slip case', but even if there were, it still doesn't help identify the whole unit as a box set.  I agree with Repter and the others that box set is not a case type, but checking digipack on a master profile is MORE wrong than checking box set.



Please look again. The directions clearly state that "Slip Case" is not a choice in DVD Profiler and tells you to select "Box Set" as the case type.
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I just looked again and you're right, the directions do not tell you that "Slip Case" is not a choice in DVD Profiler. I will reword what is there so that it is more clear.
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I think there are 4 "schools of thought".
1. Rifter: anything that contains multiple movies or episodes of a TV series must have 'boxset' as casetype. While this is indeed very simple, it somehow doesn't refer to Casetype but is a way to easily identify box set profiles.
2. Dan: just look at the OUTER package. If that has a Slip Cover, ignore it and move INWARD. If it has a Slipcase, then the casetype is Boxset. This rule is just not logical. Why would you ignore a Slipcover, but not a Slipcase ? Also, it is still not clear to me if you would then also use 'Boxset' for a single-movie keepcase inside a slipcase.
3. Anonymous: just apply Dan's rule, but include Slipcovers as well in deciding to call it a Boxset casetype. This would at least be more logical. Yet it doesn't fit well with single-movie profiles where I think no one would defend calling those Boxsets.
4. T!M (and myself): start looking at the INNER package and work your way out. The first inner package you find (starting from the disk itself) is the casetype for the disk itself. The first inner package that holds ALL disks is the casetype for the parent profile.

I think only 1 and 4 are simple yet logical. 3 is acceptable although I don't like the single-movie exception that is required. And 2 just doesn't make much sense to me since it is more exception than rule.
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Done.


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Here it is folks! A list of CASE TYPES with an image so you can tell what they are.

Select the case type as you would see it on the shelf at the store in it's original release.
     


Box Set (Slip Case): ("Slip Case" is not selectable in DVD Profiler. Select "Box Set" for this case type.)





Slip Cover (Sleeve): (not selectable in DVD Profiler) List as case type contained within.


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So you want to have this one as a box set?

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I think there are 4 "schools of thought".
1. Rifter: anything that contains multiple movies or episodes of a TV series must have 'boxset' as casetype. While this is indeed very simple, it somehow doesn't refer to Casetype but is a way to easily identify box set profiles.
2. Dan: just look at the OUTER package. If that has a Slip Cover, ignore it and move INWARD. If it has a Slipcase, then the casetype is Boxset. This rule is just not logical. Why would you ignore a Slipcover, but not a Slipcase ? Also, it is still not clear to me if you would then also use 'Boxset' for a single-movie keepcase inside a slipcase.
3. Anonymous: just apply Dan's rule, but include Slipcovers as well in deciding to call it a Boxset casetype. This would at least be more logical. Yet it doesn't fit well with single-movie profiles where I think no one would defend calling those Boxsets.
4. T!M (and myself): start looking at the INNER package and work your way out. The first inner package you find (starting from the disk itself) is the casetype for the disk itself. The first inner package that holds ALL disks is the casetype for the parent profile.

I think only 1 and 4 are simple yet logical. 3 is acceptable although I don't like the single-movie exception that is required. And 2 just doesn't make much sense to me since it is more exception than rule.

What is listed in the rules and case type thread are from Ken's directive. If you want it changed, you need to convince Ken.
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I'll post this again, as it looks like Dan overlooked it

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So you want to have this one as a box set?

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Why is it so difficult to follow the images given?

Is there something we missed or didn't clarify?


It isn't.

You didn't.
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Reybr:

For case purposes, that is a Boxset style.

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Let's just start to change all digipacks then.... 

I just sent one profile change up to see how people would react... And on the comparison screen, it no longer says Box set, but slip case

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I just sent one profile change up to see how people would react... And on the comparison screen, it no longer says Box set, but slip case


Glad you mention! Because I checked my online list (am not at home for the moment) and to my surprise I saw a profile that had "Slip case" as the casetype ?!?! I'm pretty sure that that option is not in the dropdown.
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