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Italics in Overviews.... now it's optional???
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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Since all who have posted an opinion here agree with my NO vote

Actually no, I do not agree with your vote. But in my opinion skipnet50's reaction (resubmitting with no change but personal remark) is by an order of magnitude worse.


You are correct. You posted while I was composing my post.  I will edit what I said.


(See Skip - someone points out a mistake, you accept it, man up, and fix it. To quote you and or Rifter "How hard does this have to be")

EDIT: Post corrected.
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Quoting skipnet50:
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Rho:

That is because chose not to bring it to the forums and communicate with the user in as close to a private manner as possible. I did not do it likely and should Rick recognize his error I will be happ y to rbing the notes back to where they should be.

Skip


You made a post in the CONTRIBUTION NOTES.  How is that private?  The reasons for the 'no' votes go away once the profile is accepted or declined.  Your statements, which violate the rules, are now a permanent record for that profile.  And before you say they weren't against the rules, these are the rules for contribution notes:

When you contribute a changed profile, you are required to include Contribution Notes. Use the space to enter full explanations for all changes and/or additions that you make. Make special reference to any changes where:

  • You have verified there is a discrepancy between the box and the actual content of the DVD - include your verification method.

  • You are making a subtle change that may be hard to spot - for example spelling correction to the overview.

  • You are removing incorrect information.

  • Contribution Notes provide an explanation of your changes to other DVD Profiler users and Invelos for voting and deciding whether to accept your contribution, so make your notes useful and descriptive.

    Show me where it says you can use them for chastising other users? 
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    I already did, Rick, I explained it all fully, and I agree with Rho on my notes. But...it was you who fired the shot...not I, sir. just as it wasyou who have chosen to prevent communication, not I, sir.

    Skip
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    Quoting skipnet50:
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    There is nothing that says any user is required to make ANY specific change, if you want it...be my guest, but stop blackmailing me.


    Are you sure this is the stand you want to take?  Think real hard about the path you are about to go down and the repurcussions this first step is going to cause. 
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Unicus:

    I made NO change to the existing data, by MY choice, save for the title in italics. Is that HARD to comprehend. There was ONE word that is also italicized on the case, it is not at this distinguished in our overview by ', and I made a choice not to. that is MY choice. No change, no foul. And I repeat if Rick wishes to make the change, I will not block it, that would be against the Rules. But I won't accept it here for my use.

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    Billy Video
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    BTW my reaction to lyonsden5's no vote would have been to inform him that I did not add this error and that I'm not willing to correct it for whatever reason by private message. Then if he still would insist in his no vote, I would either leave the decision to the screener risking my contribution to be declined, or I would recontribute without the overview section noting that fact in the contribution notes without any personal remark. But actually I would hope that other voters would vote like me as explained in my first post to this thread.
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorlyonsden5
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    I should point out the "note to Ken" part has been removed in yet another re-submission. The note to me is still there, and the overview is still incorrect.

    Unfortunately when you look at the contribution notes for this title you see the history of what was submitted, even though it has be removed and resubmitted.

    I once again voted NO and will continue to do so until the overview is completely corrected or removed from the submission.
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkdh1949
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    Quoting ya_shin:
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    Second, there is nothing about "title distinction" regarding the single quotes in the Rules. Everything bold or italic must be "single-quoted".


    Quoting the Rules
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    Overviews should match the back of the DVD case exactly, including capitalization of words exactly as it is shown on the back of the case. If words are highlighted in italic or bold on the case, then identify them with ‘single quotation’ marks.

    Where does it say that one doesn't have to include the single quotes because [he] made a CHOICE not to make a change.  I don't see that this is something that you can choose to do or ignore.  Either the overview is correct or it's not.  If you contribute any change to the overview, you're taking the overview in its entirety as your contribution.  If there is italic or bold text in the overview, it is your responsibility to show it.

    When was it decided that a contributor could chose whether or not to follow a rule?  I thought preventing this was why Ken switched from guidelined to rules.  Obviously, I must not understand what a RULE is.

    [You guys are typing too fast and letting the issue get beyond what I want to comment on. [whine]
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    Unicus:

    I make many votes, if the data is correct but incomplete, I will make note of it, I may even leave a note with a yes and the user can do as he wishes, I can't tell whether it was an oversight or deliberate. If the user made a conscious choice to submit correct but incomplete data then, it is for me to make the correction at some future date. I have done this for two years, there is adifference between bad data and incomplete data.

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    BTW my reaction to lyonsden5's no vote would have been to inform him that I did not add this error and that I'm not willing to correct it for whatever reason by private message. Then if he still would insist in his no vote, I would either leave the decision to the screener risking my contribution to be declined, or I would recontribute without the overview section noting that fact in the contribution notes without any personal remark. But actually I would hope that other voters would vote like me as explained in my first post to this thread.


    FWIW and for the record I have had Skip's PMs blocked for some time now due to abusive messages. (From there they went to email attacks  so now even his emails go directly to my spam folder)

    I do agree though. If you don't want to change it, leave it for the screeners to decide. As Ken has stated in the past, a No vote is not the end of the world.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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    I should point out the "note to Ken" part has been removed in yet another re-submission. The note to me is still there, and the overview is still incorrect.

    Unfortunately when you look at the contribution notes for this title you see the history of what was submitted, even though it has be removed and resubmitted.

    I once again voted NO and will continue to do so until the overview is completely corrected or removed from the submission.


    As I said, Rick that is aviolation your vote privileges and blackmail.

    Skip
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    Billy Video
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    The other 'issue' is this creates more work for two people. One person to submit a fully compliant overview and one for the screener to accept it.

    Personally for a small thing like this I would happily submit a fully compliant overview, then amend locally and lock afterwards.
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    In the case of overviews - it's either correct or it's not. There is no 'incomplete' that you can have with cast or crew.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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    Quoting Unicus69:
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    There is nothing that says any user is required to make ANY specific change, if you want it...be my guest, but stop blackmailing me.


    Are you sure this is the stand you want to take?  Think real hard about the path you are about to go down and the repurcussions this first step is going to cause. 

    I think in general skipnet50 is right with this statement. You can't force anybody to contribute full profiles and you can't force anybody to correct existing errors. Have I missed something?
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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    Quoting kdh1949:
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    If you contribute any change to the overview, you're taking the overview in its entirety as your contribution.

    Would you state the same thing for cast and crew? Either check and correct everything or nothing at all?
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRHo
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    FWIW and for the record I have had Skip's PMs blocked for some time now due to abusive messages. (From there they went to email attacks  so now even his emails go directly to my spam folder)

    I do agree though. If you don't want to change it, leave it for the screeners to decide. As Ken has stated in the past, a No vote is not the end of the world.

    That of course skips the step with the private message. The rest does still apply.

    BTW What's the UPC of that profile? I'd like to see the contribution notes.
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