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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 813 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote: It looks as if Andy made the first contribution with an SRP of $29.98 - then someone else contributed a change to $29.99 (either deliberately or maybe not seeing Andy's SRP data) which violated the rule. Andy then compounded the rule viiolation by changing SRP BACK to $29.98 (again maybe not realizing that it had been changed from his original contribution). Wrong - read my earlier post. | | | Andy
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I am certainly glad that you pointed that out, Ken, and I hope Ken C will see it as well and respond accordingly, which will of course bring howls of protest, especially from Lopek referring to democracy and so forth. BTDT. Violating the Rules is violating the rules and I don't care how you spin it, Lopek it is still violating the Rules. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Well said Ken, Skip is well within his rights to vote no as he genuinely believes there has been a rules violation. The fact that others disagree with that (me included) is by the by. And if people have been adding that title just to vote against Skip, then you're right - that is inexcusable. I'd like to hope though that most of the recent adders have simply been made aware of the profile's existence by this thread and are voting because they believe the data is right. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 813 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote: I am certainly glad that you pointed that out, Ken, and I hope Ken C will see it as well and respond accordingly, which will of course bring howls of protest, especially from Lopek referring to democracy and so forth. BTDT. Skip Another post, another groundless attack. Quote: Violating the Rules is violating the rules and I don't care how you spin it, Lopek it is still violating the Rules. I agree 100% with this statement - but I do not believe I am violating the rules - you do not get that clearly! You are not the arbiter of the rules - as you are so keen to tell other people - that is Ken and Gerri, and they will decide this when the contribution is either approved or declined. | | | Andy
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,394 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Lopek: Quote: Quoting kdh1949:
Quote: It looks as if Andy made the first contribution with an SRP of $29.98 - then someone else contributed a change to $29.99 (either deliberately or maybe not seeing Andy's SRP data) which violated the rule. Andy then compounded the rule viiolation by changing SRP BACK to $29.98 (again maybe not realizing that it had been changed from his original contribution). Wrong - read my earlier post. You mean you didn't post first? That's what you said in your earliler post. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole) Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 813 |
| Posted: | | | | Three people contributed what were classed as new profiles at the time they were contributed - ie there was no existing profie at the time. Mine was the second of them (Skip's was the third) - of course the others were invisible to each of us at the time of contributing.
When the first profile was accepted, mine (and Skip's) then became updates of that first one. The differences between mine and the first one were significant - mine included a lt more info - but my "new contribution" notes did not adequately explain the changes and additions. So I re-contributed the exact same profile as my original, but with additional notes to clarify the changes that were now visible to anyone voting. The original I made had not been voted on, or accepted/declined by Invelos at the time. | | | Andy
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Registered: March 24, 2007 | Posts: 179 |
| Posted: | | | | Let's parse the rule for a moment here.
SRP Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) at the time of the DVD’s original release using the currency type matching the locality of the DVD. Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release. Ensure the currency type matches the locality of the DVD. Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price)
For those quoting retail sources The rule says Manufacturer’s not the retailers many retailers make up a retailers suggested retail price. If you can not get it from the manufacturer of the DVD do not enter it. I would submit that if you do not have access to the manufacturers information you should not be submitting an SRP period and it should be left blank.
at the time of the DVD’s original release
This DVD has not been released for sale yet what are you all complaining about. It may even bee canceled (unlikely but possible.) When it is released then enter an SRP if you can verify it as above otherwise leave it alone. Before release the SRP should be zero since the time of the release has not arrived yet.
Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release.
Once an initial SRP is established as valid by the manufacturer do not change it simple enough.
Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
Skip's interpretation would be great here except as for the fact that the DVD has not been released. The statement taken alone is very cut and dried yet we must look at it in context of the concepts above. Its not a new paragraph.
My conclusion is that the disc should have no SRP associated with it because it has not been released yet. The rule does not make an exception for pre-release titles. | | | Brian |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting BYATES1: Quote: Let's parse the rule for a moment here.
SRP Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) at the time of the DVD’s original release using the currency type matching the locality of the DVD. Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release. Ensure the currency type matches the locality of the DVD. Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price)
For those quoting retail sources The rule says Manufacturer’s not the retailers many retailers make up a retailers suggested retail price. If you can not get it from the manufacturer of the DVD do not enter it. I would submit that if you do not have access to the manufacturers information you should not be submitting an SRP period and it should be left blank.
at the time of the DVD’s original release
This DVD has not been released for sale yet what are you all complaining about. It may even bee canceled (unlikely but possible.) When it is released then enter an SRP if you can verify it as above otherwise leave it alone. Before release the SRP should be zero since the time of the release has not arrived yet.
Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release.
Once an initial SRP is established as valid by the manufacturer do not change it simple enough.
Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
Skip's interpretation would be great here except as for the fact that the DVD has not been released. The statement taken alone is very cut and dried yet we must look at it in context of the concepts above. Its not a new paragraph.
My conclusion is that the disc should have no SRP associated with it because it has not been released yet. The rule does not make an exception for pre-release titles. WOW! Finally, a breath of fresh air, and a very astute catch on the release thing as well. Kudos! Oh, and I agree with everything you said, too! | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 820 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting BYATES1: Quote: Let's parse the rule for a moment here.
SRP Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price) at the time of the DVD’s original release using the currency type matching the locality of the DVD. Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release. Ensure the currency type matches the locality of the DVD. Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
Use the SRP (Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price)
For those quoting retail sources The rule says Manufacturer’s not the retailers many retailers make up a retailers suggested retail price. If you can not get it from the manufacturer of the DVD do not enter it. I would submit that if you do not have access to the manufacturers information you should not be submitting an SRP period and it should be left blank.
at the time of the DVD’s original release
This DVD has not been released for sale yet what are you all complaining about. It may even bee canceled (unlikely but possible.) When it is released then enter an SRP if you can verify it as above otherwise leave it alone. Before release the SRP should be zero since the time of the release has not arrived yet.
Do not change the SRP in DVD Profiler to reflect reductions in SRP that distributors make in continually over time following release.
Once an initial SRP is established as valid by the manufacturer do not change it simple enough.
Do not make contributions with changes of a few cents/pence to the SRP.
Skip's interpretation would be great here except as for the fact that the DVD has not been released. The statement taken alone is very cut and dried yet we must look at it in context of the concepts above. Its not a new paragraph.
My conclusion is that the disc should have no SRP associated with it because it has not been released yet. The rule does not make an exception for pre-release titles. I agree with your interpretation of the rule. The view that I have taken however is that for a pre-release title a bit of latitude is required and adding an SRP or even making changes for a few cents is not a real issue. My vote and comments on this title reflect that view. That said, once the title is released I agree with Skip and co that changes for a few cents are against the rules, even if they are made as part of a wider contribution. | | | Last edited: by Telecine |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote: WOW! Finally, a breath of fresh air, and a very astute catch on the release thing as well. Kudos!
Oh, and I agree with everything you said, too! I said, pretty much, the same thing back on page 3...why don't I get kudos? Just kidding. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,694 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote: Quoting Rifter:
Quote: WOW! Finally, a breath of fresh air, and a very astute catch on the release thing as well. Kudos!
Oh, and I agree with everything you said, too!
I said, pretty much, the same thing back on page 3...why don't I get kudos?
Just kidding. Hey, your head is big enough now. If it gets any bigger it won't fit your helmet anymore! Besides, I don't remember seeing it... some of these threads are so damn long, it's hard to keep track of it all. Anyway, quit whinin', you know we love ya, right? RIGHT? | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964 Make America Great Again! |
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Registered: March 24, 2007 | Posts: 179 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Oh crap! Now you've gone and done it. Witness protection here I come. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 24, 2007 | Posts: 179 |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
I said, pretty much, the same thing back on page 3...why don't I get kudos?
Kudos! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,372 |
| Posted: | | | | OT: How can someone vote NO on a contribution that follows the rules where their reason is "I can't support this" (Specifically talking about a double sided disc with movies on each side. Well within the rules.) If you can't support something that is valid per the rules then vote neutral. This place gets weirder and weirder all the time. [mumbles as he leaves] I can't support this??? WTF ??? What does that have to do with the rules ??? |
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