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| Registered: March 18, 2007 |  Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | The guidelines say we are allowed to add the Episode list to the Overview of the parent profile. Do we have a consensus on the format of this ? I would guess we use "n. Title" for the episodes conform with what came out of the Divider poll. How about a common title such as "Episodes" (and should that title be in the language of the Locality) ?
(I love consistency and note that almost all my TV series have a different way of doing it). |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,667 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
The guidelines say we are allowed to add the Episode list to the Overview of the parent profile. Do we have a consensus on the format of this ? I would guess we use "n. Title" for the episodes conform with what came out of the Divider poll. How about a common title such as "Episodes" (and should that title be in the language of the Locality) ?
(I love consistency and note that almost all my TV series have a different way of doing it). Ooh, another pet peeve of mine... I agree on the "n. Title" format, but please, PLEASE can we agree NOT to use use any header like "Episodes:", "EPISODES:", "Contains the following episodes:", "Episode List", "Episode Listing:"...? I really hate those. Not just because everybody uses their own variant (hey: "first one in wins!"), but because it's basically superfluous: it's very obvious what that list represents. Rather then having to agree on a "common" header, let alone that we should have to make that decision for each and every locality/language, couldn't we just agree NOT to use headers like that? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 17,318 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see it almost always as...
Episodes:
1. Episode Name
2. Episode Name
3. Episode Name
and so on... and that is what I, myself always use as well. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | I kinda like T!M's idea, especially the fact that there are no differences per locality then (although for the Netherlands it would not be much of an issue to use "Episodes:" since that is Dutch anyway  ). |
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| | Posted: | | | | I prefer the Episodes: header... it looks neater to me... and sets the list off from the overview. Just looks better all around IMO. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I see it almost always as...
Episodes:
1. Episode Name
2. Episode Name
3. Episode Name
and so on... and that is what I, myself always use as well. What if there is already an episode list on the case? Are you suggesting that we change that format to a standard format? This came up in a profile vote so am just curious what the concensus is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,318 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't know Unicus... part of me says stick just with a standardized list for all... but I think if there is already an episode list on the back of the case... I would be more for going with what is on the case and then sticking to the standardized list for all that do not have the list on the case. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
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I don't know Unicus... part of me says stick just with a standardized list for all... but I think if there is already an episode list on the back of the case... I would be more for going with what is on the case and then sticking to the standardized list for all that do not have the list on the case. That was actually my stance as well. I just wanted to see if I stood alone. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Posts: 426 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Unicus69: Quote:
What if there is already an episode list on the case? Are you suggesting that we change that format to a standard format? This came up in a profile vote so am just curious what the concensus is. I would definitely say Yes to this. We use standardized capitalization as well to avoid all sorts of original capitalizations that appear on boxes nowadays. BTW, the same problem with music dvd's. I would like to see a standard way of showing the tracklist/playlist. |
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| Registered: August 22, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,807 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
I don't know Unicus... part of me says stick just with a standardized list for all... but I think if there is already an episode list on the back of the case... I would be more for going with what is on the case and then sticking to the standardized list for all that do not have the list on the case. That makes sense to me.  | | | | -- Enry |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
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Quoting Unicus69:
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What if there is already an episode list on the case? Are you suggesting that we change that format to a standard format? This came up in a profile vote so am just curious what the concensus is.
I would definitely say Yes to this.
We use standardized capitalization as well to avoid all sorts of original capitalizations that appear on boxes nowadays.
BTW, the same problem with music dvd's. I would like to see a standard way of showing the tracklist/playlist. We do not use standardized capitalization in the overview. This is one of the few areas where the rules say it must match exactly. Because of that I don't know how we can standardize anything placed in that area when it comes from the back of the DVD case.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Repter: Quote:
I kinda like T!M's idea, especially the fact that there are no differences per locality then (although for the Netherlands it would not be much of an issue to use "Episodes:" since that is Dutch anyway ). For what its worth, I don't use 'Episodes' or similar headers when I do the list. Just the basic 'x. name' format. | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | As a general rule, I think anything that can be standardized across regions, and across types of profiles makes it vastly easier for everybody to do updates. Remember that this is for the online, and if you just have to do it differently, you can always change it in your local database. With that in mind, back when we had the big fights about episode lists and overviews and all that stuff, I came away with the idea that episode lists were to be standardized for child profiles and movie overviews using the 'x. name' format. And we've gone along doing things that way for many, many months. Another thing: we have ALWAYS been able to use a short, non-spoiler type synopsis from either the case itself, or from included booklets, or (as in the case of the new Heroes box set) printed on the folds of the digipak itself when doing episode lists for child profiles, etc. Now, somebody is trying to torpedo what has been working fine for quite some time. I just don't get it. It seems like some people have a self destruct wish, or maybe they just like controversy. I don't know. But it gets old as hell! [NOTE to Unicus: The Overview is separate and distinct as far as Profiler is concerned. It has very specific rules. The rest of what's on the back cover is NOT PART OF the overview, therefore has nothing to do with it. Never has been that way, and shouldn't be now. | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rifter: Quote:
[NOTE to Unicus: The Overview is separate and distinct as far as Profiler is concerned. It has very specific rules. The rest of what's on the back cover is NOT PART OF the overview, therefore has nothing to do with it. Never has been that way, and shouldn't be now. I would argue that the episode list, on the back of the DVD case, IS part of the overview...especially since that is where it is being entered. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I thought we did a poll on this and came to a consensus. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,199 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
I thought we did a poll on this and came to a consensus.
Skip My understanding, and Pete seems to have confirmed this, is that the consensus was about the simple episode list we can add when there isn't one on the case. I don't believe we had a poll to standardise what is actually on the case as well. If someone can provide a link that shows I am wrong, I will be more than happy to concede the point. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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