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Utterly Marvellous - Region coded, MPEG2, BD25 barebones catalogue titles at $40 really is the way forward. I'm SO glad BD is going to win this war.

Someone seems to be a little salty. 

I notice you still cant argue with my completely valid points. Your time off from trolling hasnt really improved your skills has it.

You mean like this...

MPEG2 vs. VC-1 from Mission Impossible III 

Expect to see a press release from Fox in a couple of weeks delaying or cancelling these titles for one reason or another. 

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Someone at AVS is stating that the press release is incorrect. MPEG2 should read MPEG4 or AVC.

DVD Empire has the back cover of Man on Fire, while it is barebones, it lists AVS as the video encode.

I think you meant AVC and not AVS as the codec. 

Yeah, still getting used to my new keyboard. the keys are wider and it has no real number pad, so, it's still a bit confusing on ny brain. But, it has gotten me doing more proof-reading. and editing

No real number pad?!  That's gotta suck for entering UPCs into Profiler. 

That numberpad layout is just like on my notebook. I bought a USB number pad instead because i prefer the squarelayout to the number keys rather than the parallelogram layout.

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So your response to region coding is to buy three players? All with different power needs and all with what, a $600 price mark?.

Or... buy a multiregion player.

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Edit: Who cares about MPEG2, it can look good if you know what you're doing.

At the same bitrate, MPEG2 will never ever look as good as AVC/VC-1. This cannot be argued.

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I think you all are bitter that HD DVD is dead... or dying!

Im not bitter, I'm thoroughly depressed. Step out of your "USA bubble" for a second and put yourself in my position.

HD DVD gave me HD movies, without region coding, with AVC or VC-1, with the PIP features of Profile 1.1, with the network features of Profile 2.0, in their original uncut and unaltered forms (here in the UK we often get cut and altered versions of the original films), with a player at a cost of $200 (360 addon) and discs at $20-30 (imports from the US). The only possible "negative" was slightly lower theoretical video bitrate which to me had no impact on my enjoyment of the films i have on HD DVD. Nothing I have seen on BD has been any more impressive than the best transfers on HD DVD.

Compare that to BD players that currently START at $600 for obsolete 1.0 models, my PS3 (although not bought for the purpose of BD) cost me $850, i cannot import BDs with region coding, so instead I have to buy UK edited, altered versions where lossless audio tracks are often replaced with standard DD tracks, at an RRP of $50-$60 per film, often up to 6 months later than their US release. And to top it off, BDA members like Fox give us total garbage like this. Single layer or bare bones releases and MPEG2 video.

Can you not see how depressing that is? Try and see through that blu haze of yours and tell me how HD DVD's impending death is great news for a consumer in my position? My intention was to wait for a well-priced combo Profile 2.0 BD/HD DVD player with region coding defeated for BD and SD DVD to replace my current multiregion dvd player/360 add-on/UK PS3 interim mess as the single standalone player for all my movie enjoyment needs. But know i now HD will die, BD players will remain artificially expensive, combo players will vanish, WB releases will go region locked, and Sony will go to great lengths to control region coding on all CE players.

Sadly it makes me want to get a good upscaling MR DVD player, sell my 360 add on and HD and BD collection and stick with SD. In fact the whole backlog of HD and BD titles I was interested in picking up after the holidays I have now lost all interest in. 

Outstanding points!!!  And while all the Blu-Ray fanboys are firing off bottle rockets and popping champagne corks like their team just won the World Cup or the Superbowl, the intelligent consumer who sees the world without the Blu tinted glasses realizes just how screwed this situation has truly become!!! Bitterness, you're damn right!!!

Being completely region free was just a temporary ploy to sucker in more HD DVD buyers.  There has NEVER been a format that didn't have some region coding.  Some people have just been snowed in by the HD DVD Promo group.  The committee for region coding on HD DVD had already been formed.  They don't form those committees just for their health you know. 

Also, Blu-ray has close to 50% of their titles listed as ALL REGIONS (region free).  Once you truly understand the purpose of region coding, one should realize that it will NOT go away (unless another release structure is put in place).  So, all that region free talk is not a logical talking point.

I already proved that MPEG-2 CAN look as good or better than VC-1 (see link near the top of the page).  Therefore, that was not a logical talking point either.

Some people have just bought into the HD DVD viral marketing hook, line and sinker.  They just can't understand that MOST of their VALID concerns are VERY temporary.  Blu-ray has better longevity.  That makes it a much better investment than HD DVD on that premise alone!  If you don't like the price of BD players, wait 'til the price drops to a price YOU can live with (like the way it ALWAYS used to work in the past).

It really doesn't matter whether you can understand these things are not.  If you want HD movies, you WILL go Blu-ray at some point.

I can't wait to purchase The Invasion (love your avatar, stefc), I Am Legend, The Golden Compass, The Bucket List, Mr. Woodcock, Michael Clayton, The Brave One, Lord of the Rings (whenever), Austin Powers (whenever), etc (along with the other Blu-ray EXCLUSIVE releases).