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Internal Mapping of Ratings per Locality
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantWhite Pongo, Jr.
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<Locality Unk='2' Code='13' Name='Italy'>
    <Rating Code='1' Name='T'/>


That's OK. "T" stands for "Tutti", that is All, suitable for All .


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    <Rating Code='2' Name='VM14'/>


Roughly equivalent to PG-13, should be remapped to code 3


 
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  <Rating Code='3' Name='VM18'/>


Roughly equivalent to NC-17, should be remapped to code 5.
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Quoting goodguy:
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As I have explained in this post, the ratings (eg. PG, R) for each locality are mapped to an internal rating level (1 - 5).

For the display of your Online Collection, profiles with an internal rating level of 5 are considered "adult" titles, and are hidden if you choose that option.

In addition, profiles are considered "adult", if they have the "Adult" rating, or if they have the "Adult" genre. The NR rating is *not* considered as "adult".
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<Locality Unk='2' Code='9' Name='Netherlands'>
  <Rating Code='1' Name='AL'/>
  <Rating Code='2' Name='6'/>
  <Rating Code='3' Name='12'/>
  <Rating Code='4' Name='16'/>
</Locality>

Does this means an addition of a possible '9' rating is not possible because it will push the '16' rating to level 5 and makes it an "Adult" rating (which it isn't)?

If this is true I guess the only way to support this new Dutch rating would be to rename rating '12' to '9/12' just like the Finnish ratings '13' and '15'.
Martin Zuidervliet

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As an aside, Canada has a set of classifications which is specific to Home Videos ('cause it apparently was insufficiently bureaucratic before).

It's because we like to make everything complicated in our country. My province like to be distinct so she choose to have a complete different model...

We are so much different in the Province of Quebec than the ROC


You mean Republic of China, as in Taiwan? What's the difference then? 
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We are so much different in the Province of Quebec than the ROC

You mean Republic of China, as in Taiwan? What's the difference then? 


ROC = Rest of Canada

This is an abreviation that we use commonly here, just forget that not everyone here are Canadian.
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The UK is also missing a rating: R18 which is used exclusively for hardcore pornographic films.

Does anyone know if it's possible for ratings to have the same ratings code? Or is it the rating code itself which defines which rating we see on a profile?
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The UK is also missing a rating: R18 which is used exclusively for hardcore pornographic films.

If we're going to get picky over the BBFC ratings, they have Uc, U, PG, 12A, 12, 15, 18, R18.

To fit it into 5 ratings, you can group them as Uc/U, PG, 12A/12, 15, 18/R18
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The UK is also missing a rating: R18 which is used exclusively for hardcore pornographic films.

Like the previously mentioned Australian "X", this is covered by the generic "Adult" rating available in all localities.

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Does anyone know if it's possible for ratings to have the same ratings code? Or is it the rating code itself which defines which rating we see on a profile?

I'm pretty sure only the internal rating level is stored for a profile - which makes it impossible to have multiple ratings with the same level.

Quoting Martin_Zuidervliet:
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Does this means an addition of a possible '9' rating is not possible because it will push the '16' rating to level 5 and makes it an "Adult" rating (which it isn't)?

If this is true I guess the only way to support this new Dutch rating would be to rename rating '12' to '9/12' just like the Finnish ratings '13' and '15'.

Yes, it seems that way. I'm not sure why Ken uses only 5 levels - the DVD specification for parental control defines 8 levels per country. Probably it goes back to early versions of DVD Profiler that had no localities and only the US ratings.
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  <Locality Unk='2' Code='22' Name='Switzerland'>
    <Rating Code='1' Name='FSK-0'/>
    <Rating Code='2' Name='FSK-6'/>
    <Rating Code='3' Name='FSK-12'/>
    <Rating Code='4' Name='FSK-16'/>
    <Rating Code='5' Name='FSK-18'/>
  </Locality>


For the past few months (I don't know the exact date it went "live"), we have a new classification system here in Switzerland for DVDs. All the distributors agreed to follow a code of conduct (German and French only, sorry) which defines eight levels : 0+, 6+, 7+, 10+, 12+, 14+, 16+, 18+.

As each "pair" of level has a specific color code (see this document for reference, PDF in French), I'd propose the following mapping to the five levels of DVD Profiler:
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  <Locality Unk='2' Code='22' Name='Switzerland'>
    <Rating Code='1' Name='0+'/>
    <Rating Code='2' Name='6+/7+'/>
    <Rating Code='3' Name='10+/12+'/>
    <Rating Code='4' Name='14+/16+'/>
    <Rating Code='5' Name='18+'/>
  </Locality>


(Sorry for my broken English, I hope you can still understand what I'm writing.)
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(Sorry for my broken English, I hope you can still understand what I'm writing.)


Don't worry for that, I'm one of the worst here for the written english and no one has hit me yet 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantwintermute115
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Quoting northbloke:
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The UK is also missing a rating: R18 which is used exclusively for hardcore pornographic films.

Like the previously mentioned Australian "X", this is covered by the generic "Adult" rating available in all localities.


Except, of course, that "R18" is adult and "18" is not adult. An 18-rated movie (such as Fargo, or Schindler's List) should not be hidden by default, whereas an R18 movie should.
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France:

there are officially 9 levels in France

1) tout public (all audience)
1bis) tous publics, avec avertissement (all audience with warning)

2) interdit aux mineurs de moins de 12 ans (12 years old or above)
2bis) " avec avertissement

3) interdit aux mineurs de moins de 16 ans (16 years old or above)
3bis) " avec avertissement

4) interdit aux mineurs de moins de 18 ans (18 years old or above)

5a) film classé X, porno, interdit aux mineurs de moins de 18 ans (X rated for pornographic contents, 18 years old or above)
5b) film classé X, violence, interdit aux mineurs de moins de 18 ans (X rated for violent contents, 18 years old or above)

(source : http://www.cnc.fr/Site/Template/A2.aspx?SELECTID=18&ID=19&t=3 )

(there is actually a -13 rating, which has been used only once)

the -18 rating is for movies which content is considered suitable for viewers of 18 only, but are not X rated. According to the above link, movies like "Baise moi", "Ken Park", "9 songs", but also "Saw III" have been rated -18.

note the two X ratings : for porn or "incitation à la violence", (but only one movie has been rated X for violence according to that db)

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So, if I guess it right, the data should be
<Locality Unk='2' Code='8' Name='France'>
  <Rating Code='1' Name='U'/> (I guess 'U' stands for 'Universel'?)
  <Rating Code='2' Name='12'/>
  <Rating Code='3' Name='16'/>
  <Rating Code='4' Name='18'/>
</Locality>
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Mexico

According to RTC (Dirección General de Radio, Televisión y Cinematografía), in México we have 6 official ratings:

AA) All audience, of special interest for childrens under 7 years old.

A) All audience.

B) Viewing is not permitted for children under 12 years old.

B-15) Viewing is not permitted for people under 15 years old.

C) Viewing is not permitted for people under 18 years old.

D) Viewing is not permitted for people under 18 years old. The main or only content is explicit sex, strong language and/or extreme levels of violence.

The D rating is for viewers of 18 and older, and is considered the rating for pornographic content. And there are very few movies with this rating.

So, our data may be as follows:

  <Locality Unk='4' Code='25' Name='Mexico'>
    <Rating Code='1' Name='AA'/>
    <Rating Code='2' Name='A'/>
    <Rating Code='3' Name='B'/>
    <Rating Code='4' Name='B-15'/>
    <Rating Code='5' Name='C'/>
  </Locality>
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The file format has changed and is now called localities.xod.

Now Mexico looks like:

<Locality Description="Mexico" ID="25" DVDRegion="4" BDRegion="A">
<Ratings Description="Film" ID="0">
<Rating LegacyValue="1" Name="AA" Description="AA" Age="1"/>
<Rating LegacyValue="2" Name="A" Description="A" Age="10"/>
<Rating LegacyValue="3" Name="B" Description="B" Age="13"/>
<Rating LegacyValue="4" Name="C" Description="C" Age="17"/>
</Ratings>
</Locality>

Based on your info, I'm guessing that Ken will add:

<Rating LegacyValue="5" Name="B-5" Description="B-5" Age="15"/>

and some of the other Age values would change, I think.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorVoltaire53
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Quoting northbloke:If we're going to get picky over the BBFC ratings, they have Uc, U, PG, 12A, 12, 15, 18, R18.


But that combines Cinema and Video/DVD ratings.

12A is only used for cinema rating, 12 is only used for Video/DVD

Interestingly, though Uc does appear in some graphics their official guidelines document doesn't even mention it and it looks like they now just use U and say "works particularly suited to children will be indicated in the Consumer Advice"

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To fit it into 5 ratings, you can group them as Uc/U, PG, 12A/12, 15, 18/R18


But ,as mentioned, R18 shouldn't be grouped with 18 as it is specifically for hardcore adult entertainment and should be equivalent to Adult - which must have been intended or realised at some poing as 'Adult' rating is not available as an option for the UK Locality.
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