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Slip Case vs Cover Art: Let's continue the conversation! |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skribner: Quote:
I, like you, am just another user with my own ideas of what would constitute an improvement.
First, I thank you for the presentation you used for your poll. It was tinged with humour, which changes us from people who are so much serious that those forums became deadly boring... Ridicule is not always where people think it is, mainly when they are themselves unable to accept their own errors. Second, I support your idea. Rules should be discussed every time someone thinks that it is possible to make things improve. After those discussions, Ken would decide a change or not, but the idea that it is forbidden to discuss those rules seems as if we were members of a sect... | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I too have no problem with the way you've presented your poll.
But my biggest problem is that I couldn't tell which option was for me - I like the rule as it is, but am more than happy to discuss changes. There was no option for that.
And don't give up too easily on having the option of multiple images, it may turn up eventually... you could even add them yourself using HTML windows if you like! |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | Although I can't find an option in the poll selection which I'm really comfortable with, I'd tend to say, that if the graphical content is the same, we should use the cover which is of higher quality - or at least which the scanner of the provider can cope with...
Especially with the gold or silver plated covers this would avoid the nasty black letters on black grounding until someone with a really capable scanner comes along...
Regards, AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 940 |
| | Posted: | | | | I think if you browse in the layouts section of theses forums, you will find that several people are using an image gallery html window for exactly the purpose you seem to be looking for. It would be nice if some day in the future, the program is capable of handling multiple different releases of a film that re-use a UPC code, with all of the pertinent data that could be "release specific" but I'm not going to hold my breath. Just think of the confusion on contributions... oh my.  | | | | Kevin |
| | Registered: July 7, 2007 |  Posts: 284 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quote from someone: I think if you browse in the layouts section of theses forums, you will find that several people are using an image gallery html window for exactly the purpose you seem to be looking for. Yes, that html window seems like a godsend gift.. Now all I have to do is figure out how it works  Anyone got a manual to save me a lot of research? I saw nothing useful readily available on the forum or the layout submissions.. And I think a discussion on a subject like this should not be discouraged. You brought it in an oddly fashioned way and maybe the poll should have been about the slipcase thing and not about the willingness to discuss it. I think that's what set the folks off who "flamed" your poll. Anyway, I am inclined to abstain from choosing a side because on the one hand I like the images to match the covers I see on the shelf but on the other had those reflective scans annoy the *** out of me. | | | My DVD's
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive? | | | | Last edited: by RaymondG |
| | Registered: March 24, 2007 |  Posts: 240 |
| | Posted: | | | | Slip covers are not always a copy of what's inside. Mushi-Shi has all the normal info on the slip cover, but there is nothing on the inside cover but artwork and the title, and the title is on the back. No UPC, no overview, no info box, nothing. | | | | Tom. |
| | Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting AiAustria: Quote:
Especially with the gold or silver plated covers this would avoid the nasty black letters on black grounding until someone with a really capable scanner comes along...
But if you follow the rules, ("If, however, the Slipcase is reflective, and the inner cover art is identical, use the Keep Case art to scan, as it will give a better quality image") and scan the keep case cover instead, and get a sharper image with better coloration, you will get a a lot on no votes stating "Not the slip cover" |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,704 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
But if you follow the rules, ("If, however, the Slipcase is reflective, and the inner cover art is identical, use the Keep Case art to scan, as it will give a better quality image") and scan the keep case cover instead, and get a sharper image with better coloration, you will get a a lot on no votes stating "Not the slip cover" With the current rule set - and the ruling tendency to follow the rules as lemmings - there is no way for my proposal. - Clear. But with slightly less sharp definition in the rule set (eg. "If, however, the Slipcase scan is of less quality, and the inner cover art is identical, use the inner cover art to scan, as it will give a better quality image") the decision would be left to the voters - and screeners - which should work much better... I can't agree to the passus "reflective" at all, since out there are scanners which handle reflective parts on the cover perfectly and produce perfect scans - but they are rare... Regards, AA | | | | Complete list of Common Names • A good point for starting with Headshots (and v11.1) |
| | Registered: August 10, 2007 | | Posts: 10 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's funny, I just realized something: The proponents for the Slip Case argue that the slip case is what you see when you go to the store. Fair enough, I suppose. Yet this reasoning counters the rule that says only the original slip cover/cover art shall be represented, which is in diametric opposition to the slip cover rule. For instance, "The Italian Job" on HD DVD was "rereleased" with non-reflective covers that was, essentially, the same cover but without the reflective treatment. I got bombed because this cover was a rerelease - even though the quality was better than the original! I guess that in addition to the resistance of some of our more verbose forum contributors to challenge THE RULES, there seems to be no overarching philosophy within THE RULES to make one RULE compliment the others. Thoughts?  | | | | Last edited: by area51va |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,594 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skribner: Quote:
It's funny, I just realized something:
The proponents for the Slip Case argue that the slip case is what you see when you go to the store. Fair enough, I suppose.
Yet this reasoning counters the rule that says only the original slip cover/cover art shall be represented, which is in diametric opposition to the slip cover rule.
For instance, "The Italian Job" on HD DVD was "rereleased" with non-reflective covers that was, essentially, the same cover but without the reflective treatment. I got bombed because this cover was a rerelease - even though the quality was better than the original!
I guess that in addition to the resistance of some of our more verbiose forum contributors to challenge THE RULES, there seems to be no overarching philosophy within THE RULES to make one RULE compliment the others.
Thoughts? No "thoughts" needed. Read the Rules regarding rereleases. Original release trumps rerelease  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Posts: 189 |
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