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Question about adding "crew"
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarklyNoon
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Hello folks,

I like to bring up one thing that just got to my attention.

I am contributing alot and also voting alot on other contributions.

There is a recent contribution of "30 Days of Night: Blood Trails".

The contributor wants to remove the crew, cuz it is not in the credits of the film.
But the complete crew is written on the back cover of the DVD and it is definitely all correct, checked it back with various sources.

Why do we not allow this then ?

hoping to get some answers

thx
Donnie
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Because the Rules say:

Take Crew Credits from the film credits only; list names exactly as they are in the credits.

Therefore removing them from a film without credits is correct.  Technically they are all Uncredited but there is no option for Uncredited crew so third party sources (including the jacket) can't be used.

You can certainly lock the crew for your own profile so they remain with you locally.
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Strange as it may sound, Tweeter is correct.
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tweeter is 100% right... if they are not in the opening/end credits they do not get listed into profiler per rules.
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thx for clearing that, but if you all find this strange, why is there such a rule ?

cheers
Donnie
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Other than the director and producer...and sometimes composer and writer...I don't care much about the crew credits.  I do enter them when I audit a title but, for me, the fewer the better.

Since I don't really carea about them, I really hadn't given it much thought.
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Quoting DarklyNoon:
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thx for clearing that, but if you all find this strange, why is there such a rule ?

cheers
Donnie

Because there is very little you can do to prove that they worked on the film if they were not credited.

In the case of an actor, we can see them on the screen or hear them in the soundtrack.

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Tobe blunt about it, Darkly.there has to be somewhere we get Cast and Crew data from,not just from wherever a user wants to pull from OR even sometimes make up. The MOST complete and accurate source of such information is the FILM ITSELF, thus the answer become obvious. ANY other source is not acceptable. If some other database wants to use the backc cover then fine, that is the way they do it.

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I guess if you added the Cast from the case cover and put "uncredited" after them, it would be allright. The UK contributor of the UK Edition did it this way and seems to be still alive and kicking  But only the Cast.
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Other than the director and producer...and sometimes composer and writer...I don't care much about the crew credits.  I do enter them when I audit a title but, for me, the fewer the better.

Since I don't really carea about them, I really hadn't given it much thought.


My view as well... I was never much for a big long list of crew members... there is very little I care about in the crew. so for me personally the less there is the better.

I personally was happy when we only had a couple spots for director.
Pete
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thanks to you all for your replies

Donnie
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Other than the director and producer...and sometimes composer and writer...I don't care much about the crew credits.  I do enter them when I audit a title but, for me, the fewer the better.


I agree we could do without carpenters, caterers, dozens of types of sound crew and whatever. But apart from director/writer/composer, I would like to know how to handle "Created By".

Not having these in the actual credits would be exceptional anyway, so the DVD woiuld be a valid and sufficient source.
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