sad to see you go, hopefully you will be back someday

But I am also happy by KEN's comment that the numbers of contributions are rising in numbers and that the quality is good

cheers to all
Donnie

Sad to see you go Berak and I hope you will return some day. The community, and especially the Norwegian community, needs contributors like you. Although we don't agree 100% on everything, our arguments have always been in a constructive and polite manner. (Except when football has been involved )

There goes another dedicated "member" of this society.

How many more have to leave to make it clear that something needs to change?

It has nothing to do with doom & gloom, it's just the way it is.

For me this forum used to be a pleasant place to visit, where you would read interesting topics, laugh about a lot of stuff and learn a bit on the side. That time is long gone since all the "changes" this site has gone through.

DVD Profiler isn't only made by it's creator/s, it's power used to be the users getting involved, that made the great database which is the heart of the program and the reason for many people to buy the software in the first place.

The way things are going right now is that those same users are being treated like childern and everyone expressing themselves or adressing the issues has a very high chance of either getting their posts/topics deleted or simply be denied.

Berak has a few very valid points and the only response he is getting can be summed up as, well that's not true and see ya.

That is in my opinion a very ungrateful and totally unconstructive way of "dealing" with people.

And about contributions. It might be true that the number of contributions have gone up, i have no way of checking that, but the main reason for that is the new DVD Profiler version.

What i do notice is that the quality of the contributions really has gone down.

I never used to check a contribution in the past if i bought a new dvd but lately i find myself downloading just the covers and making my own personal profiles to go along with them more and more.

Sorry to see you go Berak...

P.S. Ken, If the moderators dare to follow there strict way of moderating, i am sorry to say that they have to edit your post also. The whole Iphone part of your post is totally of topic and tends to distract the people from the actual post made by Berak.

Well, I think that the general forums here are a very fun place to visit, people are nice and you always find something to laugh about.
In the Contribution Discussions it gets heated alot, but I just stay out of this then and do my contributions, so this is a way to fully enjoy this program AND the forums.

just my 2 cents
Donnie

Quoting Berak:

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And to profess that the contribution community is very strong, is, for me at least, ignoring the actual facts of the situation. It might well be that new contributors join as we speak, but you CANNOT ignore the fact that some of your most faithful contributors have openly stated lately that they are leaving due to various issues.

I used to think this way, many years ago.  As a forum user, I used to wonder why companies didn't respond more to forum trends and desires.  I used to wonder why they weren't as concerned, as I was, when people stated that they were leaving the forum and the software.  It wasn't until I started working for them, as a moderator, that I discovered the reason  If they are lucky, 10% of the user base will participate in the forums.  Of that group, if they were lucky, half would be 'regulars'.

While I am sorry to see any forum member stop participating, in the grand scheme of things, it really won't have an impact on the program.  I see contributions from non-forum users all the time.  At the moment, I have 18 contributions in my voting queue.  Of that 18, 14 are from people who do not participate in the forums.

It is nice that Ken considers our opinions as much as he does, something that suprised me quite a bit, he still has to consider how things impact the 90% of users we never see.

As I said earlier, we live in a little fishbowl that is the forum.  When someone leaves, it has a huge impact on us.  Ken, on the other hand, owns the entire pet store.  Losing a few goldfish, while unfortunate, doesn't impact him the same way it does us.

Please note, this is all my opinion based on my work with game software companies. 

Quoting bob9000:

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We are goldfish. I like it. 

I'm not a goldfish......

I'm a Neon Tetra who dreams of being a Siamese Fighting Fish

OUT AND DONE

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