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How to enter 'As Himself'
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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There is a contribution up for 'Zombieland'.  It does not add full crew, so I made a contribution that does.  There is, however, a difference of opinion as to a single credit.  Here is the cast list as presented in the end credits:

Columbus          Jesse Eisenberg
Tallahassee      Woody Harrelson
Wichita            Emma Stone
Little Rock        Abigail Breslin
406                  Amber Heard
As Himself        Bill Murray
Clown Zombie    Derek Graf

Here is the question...How do you enter Bill Murray?  Note: Ken has already ruled on the "Name: Himself  Role: Bill Murray" debate so that is a non-issue.
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Previous thread about this subject matter here. I also seem to remember Ken speaking out against including "As" at some point, but I can't find it...
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Why not cameo
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This one is kinda a tough one for me.

On one hand we have the rule that states character names are to be exactly as credited in the credits. And there is no exception to this rule.

On the other hand if we put it in the profile as "As Himself" our online collection will show Bill Murray as As Himself.

I guess I would have to say go strictly by the rules and contribute "As Himself" since there is no exception... and then I would remove As from the credit locally to fix that problem.

Though I would petition to have an exception to the rule to drop any As before character names.
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Quoting FilmAlba:
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Why not cameo


That would be against the rules.
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Previous thread about this subject matter here. I also seem to remember Ken speaking out against including "As" at some point, but I can't find it...


I hope he did say something against "As"... and someone can find it. Unfortunately I don't remember it at least.
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Why not cameo


That would be against the rules.


Everything is against the rules 
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That is the purpose of Rules... to be sure to get the info that is wanted in the database. And when it comes to character names... what Invelos decided they wanted was as credited in the actual credits. With an exception written that says if there is nothing provided in the rules for character we can use an outside source. Since he is credited as himself that is what must be used.
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Here is the question...How do you enter Bill Murray?

I would enter the role as "As Himself" since that's what the Rules clearly say to do.

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Previous thread about this subject matter here. I also seem to remember Ken speaking out against including "As" at some point, but I can't find it...

I also recall Ken or Gerri stating that the 'As' should be left out in cases like this.

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The poll is right-on.  Enter as:

Name: Bill Murray
Role: Himself
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Awesome! 
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Awesome! 

Seconded. 
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
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The Centauri learned this lesson once.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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The poll is right-on.  Enter as:

Name: Bill Murray
Role: Himself


Always have; always will.

Thanks.
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Good to have a ruling. Now we no longer have to depend on common sense
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I always enjoy how, whenever Ken rules in a thread that includes a poll, the vote for the other option always keeps increasing after the matter is settled. Here again: at the time Ken made his ruling, there were three votes for "as as Himself". And right now, it has six votes... 
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