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Is there more than one Kathy Bates (BY) question
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I was making a contribution for "The Blind Side" the other day and Kathy Bates shows up with a birth year.  Normally there is a check box to contribute a BY that has not been already accepted but, this time there wasn't so I checked the accepted BY thread and didn't find Kathy Bates listed.

I didn't contribute the cast since I couldn't find any evidence that we need a BY for her but, is there another thread where she got accepted?
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I don't know if it is actually a different Kathy Bates as I never seen the movie... but according to imdb there is a Kathy Bates in Kwoon while it seems to be out of print the DVD is out there. According to imdb this is the only thing this "other" Kathy Bates has done.


The "Other" Kathy bates at IMDB
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What do you all think? is it another Kathy Bates or an imdb goof-up?
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I don't know but going according tot he front cover art Kwoon is some sort of Kung Fu comedy.

I just can't picture the more famous Bates starring in that type of movie.

So I'm going to assume that there are two Kathy Bates.


I guess the only way to really solve this is if someone owns this dvd is for them to find the scene where Kathy Bates appears and see if she looks like the well known Bates.
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If "Kwoon" is the only movie in that the other Kathy Bates plays, there's til now no need for a BY. There's just one profile of Kwoon inside database and this profile is without cast and crew
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It isn't being added. It is already there. So I wouldn't ask to have it removed since as soon as someone does the cast list for it (if it is in the database that could happen at any time... or may never... who knows).... it will be needed anyway. So I personally wouldn't worry about it.
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You could leave it local and at submitting not flaggin' the checkbox for including. (In this case were I know it could happen I would do so, but normally I remove the unneeded BYs in my database)
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You aren't getting it VirusPil... There is no check box... it is already in the main online database as an acceptable birth year. So only Ken/Gerri can remove it now.

See what Tracer said...

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I was making a contribution for "The Blind Side" the other day and Kathy Bates shows up with a birth year. Normally there is a check box to contribute a BY that has not been already accepted but, this time there wasn't so I checked the accepted BY thread and didn't find Kathy Bates listed.

I didn't contribute the cast since I couldn't find any evidence that we need a BY for her but, is there another thread where she got accepted?


see what I put in bold.

But it seems the question still remains if this is indeed a different Kathy Bates or the same Kathy Bates.
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Wasn't Kathy Bates BY one of those incorrect BY's that got downloaded with one of the latest headshot database updates along with a couple of others like Teri Hatcher? I'm pretty sure she was. I'm out the door, so I don't have time to search for it, but remember reading something about it at the time.
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Oops, I think now I got it. 

I see the problematic. But if it's in database and just Ken or Gerri could remove it, why not leave it as it is and include it? (Even if unneeded)
Til now it's sometimes just ping-pong. Adding BY, removig BY. 

Same or different Kathy Bates? I don't know, but I would bet, if she exists, she's a different. On http://kwoon.com/ you can watch the movie. Let's see if someone can find her. 


And btw, the problematic is not new:
http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=250804&messageID=939078#M939078
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The biggest problem leaving the BY is there is no supporting documentation for this BY in the accepted BY thread.  So now if anyone tries to make a contribution with Kathy Bates in the cast the birth year automatically gets added without the option not to include it.

I for one don't want to propergate a BY just in the chance there is another Kathy Bates that might have played in one movie.  So for now I guess my only options are to either not make any cast contributions that Kathy Bates is in.  Remove the BY from my locale DB so I can continue to make contributions.  Or to document someone else BY contribution and get it in the accepted BY thread.  Right now I'm thinking best to remove it from my local DB 
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It is what I would do Tracer.
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I've removed BY's for Kathy Bates in certain profiles.

I've never submitted a change just to remove the BY, but I have made them as part of larger contributions, just like I have with removing John Cleese's BY.

People need to be careful of what BY they're submitting and accepting. I'm constantly seeing valid BYs removed and invalid BYs submitted.

And it's a pain, because once it's in your local, it affects all the profiles for that actor, and that's how they get spread. There should be an option to accept or decline a BY if you ask me.
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This thread can be updated with my thread concerning the Kathy Bates allegedly in Kwoon: http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=555314.  Definitive proof that a BY for Kathy Bates isn't needed.
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