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 | Blair | | Resistance is Futile! |
| Registered: October 30, 2008 |  Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't see a reason for this... not because it's a bad idea but because the topic volume here is so low. Assuming you have staff that watch the topics at all, any topic that is filled with arguing isn't exactly difficult to miss.
Now if this forum was receiving 1,000 posts per day between 60 topics like some forums making it difficult to keep up with where the negative stuff may be hiding, I could understand the need.
But that's just my view. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote:
Assuming you have staff that watch the topics at all, any topic that is filled with arguing isn't exactly difficult to miss.
For me they (he) seem to missed them very often unless we report them with the ticket suport system or by PM... |
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| Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Posts: 384 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't think this is a solution really. Some of these discussions that people want locked are actually about quite interesting things that need to be talked about. Even educational sometimes. It's the users that turn them into mud slinging contests. Locking threads isn't the answer in my opinion. Not to say that there aren't threads that just need to be locked but usually as Blair said, those should be seen relatively quickly even if the staff here isn't on all the time. You can tell from a mile away what threads are going to turn into a train wreck sometimes by the opening post. Anyway, just my opinion. Carry on.  | | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire |
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 |  Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | An interesting alternative for a button:
Just stop watching the thread! | | | | Hans |
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| Blair | | Resistance is Futile! |
| Registered: October 30, 2008 | | Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | What about a "community lock" button. If either the topic creator or X# of number of members request the thread be locked, it is shut automatically. (It would need to be a significant number to keep a few random people from ganging up and closing every thread just for the fun of it.)
I saw both features on one of the first non-usernet topic sites I ever encountered, and it works surprisingly well to block spam and end things that were turning toward the extreme negative. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's an interesting idea, I've never heard of a community lock before. Not sure with the average number of logged in users in this forum whether it's feasible in this case though. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | If correctly moderated no thread needs to be locked at any time. Off-topic posts would be moved to an appropriate thread. Nasty and inappropriate posts would be edited or removed. Such a thread would either be kept alive with actual and on-topic posts or it would die its silent death of inactivity.
Therefore we need no locks (neither community nor provider locks). We need working moderation with appropriate consequences for offensive users. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote:
What about a "community lock" button. Better than that, just give the possibilty to the thread openner to lock his/her own thread when he got the answer he/she was looking for. Many forums had this possibility... |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
Better than that, just give the possibilty to the thread openner to lock his/her own thread when he got the answer he/she was looking for. Many forums had this possibility... Absolutely disagree! A thread is not owned by the opener nor is its purpose to answer the opener questions only. I see much to many possibilities to abuse such a feature. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have to agree with RHo, I've seen too many egos in this forum open a thread and get very upset when the discussion didn't go their way. I also see this option as too much open to abuse. |
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| Blair | | Resistance is Futile! |
| Registered: October 30, 2008 | | Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
If correctly moderated no thread needs to be locked at any time. Oh, I fully agree... but to what degree to moderate in such a way is often open to debate as well and can be very nerve racking for the person who is doing the moderating. (Speaking from personal experience because owner did not want locked threads or banned or blocked users, so the only option was to fix or delete every problematic post among the thousand posted every day. Not fun.) | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote:
Quoting RHo:
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If correctly moderated no thread needs to be locked at any time.
Oh, I fully agree... but to what degree to moderate in such a way is often open to debate as well and can be very nerve racking for the person who is doing the moderating. (Speaking from personal experience because owner did not want locked threads or banned or blocked users, so the only option was to fix or delete every problematic post among the thousand posted every day. Not fun.) Sure, that's why I've also said the part about appropriate consequences for offensive users which you have not quoted. IMO those consequences include banning (with increasing time outs for repeated offences): Quote:
We need working moderation with appropriate consequences for offensive users. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Since the most problematic threads of people hurling insults back and forth seem to grow at the rate of seven pages per day or more, maybe an automatic lock when a thread hits that size. I can't say I've ever seen any useful discussion past that point. | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting gardibolt: Quote:
...maybe an automatic lock when a thread hits that size. I can't say I've ever seen any useful discussion past that point. If that point means 7 pages per day, I agree. If it means 7 pages, I disagree since some long term threads may be interesting (headshots thread is still useful at 34 pages) | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 17,329 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't like anything automatic like that... because not only for situations like surfeur brought up... but just because you haven't seen it don't mean it hasn't or can't happen.
Thinking back to when new betas come out there is multiple threads that grow big and fast... but stay on topic and don't get hostile. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Automatic closings is a very bad idea. Sometimes, even when a problem is solved, information can be gathered from the furthered discussion in a thread.
Before it turned to butt, the Van't thread was a good example of this, as I was finding out things I never knew.
All that really needs to happen is Invelos get a few more moderators. That's easy as pie. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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