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Windowboxed Day the Earth Stood Still Blu-Ray. Normal?
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I just got the 3-disc combo of Day the Earth Stood Still and it comes with a Blu-Ray of the 1951 film.

Regardless of the Display settings I use on the player itself, the movie is shown in a window-box fashion on my 4:3 TV.

I know this is likely normal for 16:9 displays, but is it for older 4:3 TV's too?


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Actually it's pillar-boxed all around.
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Well the movie is 1:33  regardless of the display .. Do you use HDMI and your TV is set to auto expand??

Unless the disc authoring is 16x9 with ''built in borders'' is an area I still have yet to find exists ...
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Connected through a receiver via standard phono type cords, which is then connected to the tv via the same phono cord.

TV is old, so it has no consumer changeable settings except for the standard color type settings. Nothing in regards to ratio can be changed.

I played a TV series on the same BR player and TV and it filled up the screen. Only the Day the Earth Stood Still (1951) is playing in the pillar-box fashion.
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Since all blu-rays are 16:9 this is normal behaviour for a 4:3 film encoded into a 16:9 frame.
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Since all blu-rays are 16:9 this is normal behaviour for a 4:3 film encoded into a 16:9 frame.

I've drawn a true to scale sketch:



The black borders left and right are already on the media (just like the black borders on top and bottom of a widescreen movie on a non-anamorphic DVD). The black borders on top and bottom are from the TV.

In this scenario, 4:3 movie on B-rD at 4:3 TV, I'd zoom.
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TV is old, so it has no consumer changeable settings except for the standard color type settings. Nothing in regards to ratio can be changed.

Maybe you can change the output format of the player.
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I played a TV series on the same BR player and TV and it filled up the screen.

On DVD? Then you would have a 4:3 image in a 4:3 frame on a 4:3 display.
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The BR player has no zoom function.

So I guess until I get a HDTV I'll just have to put up with the smaller image on my TV.
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I think I have found the answer .. apparently the image is 1.37:1  and therefore this image is set within the 16x9 output .. creating a pillarbox effect ..
You must have ( without looking) other full frame movies in your BD collection .. How do they stand up on your TV display.. pillars only?  or pillarboxed??
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Actually no I don't. I just recently got into Blu-Ray and this is my first I suppose what used to be called "Full Screen" movies on Blu-Ray.
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http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews43/day_earth_stood_still_blu-ray.htm (look at the big shots)

Blu-rays are always 16:9. Movies with narrower ARs will be pillarboxed inside the 16:9 frame. If you show them on a 16:9 TV, all is good. If you show them on a 4:3 TV, it letter boxes the already pillarboxed image and makes it windowboxed.
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