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DVDP database in cloud?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
Registered: March 11, 2012
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Hi,

I was wondering if the following scenario could be established:

Put the DVDP database into the cloud so that I can access it over internet from any place.

For that purpose I have created an account at CloudMe, free of charge, storage capacity 3 GB for free. At the moment my DVDP database contains app. 230 DVDs, resulting in a database size of app. 60 MB. I can access the cloud storage with my Windows 7 machines without problems, the CloudMe storage is connected to them via network drive M: in Windows Explorer.

However, the connection speed is...hmmmm...slow, no slow is not the right word, it's more like slower than lame... Therefore I transferred the database to my NAS and that's very comfortable.

Maybe I should split the whole thing: database into the cloud and all other parts like covers etc. remains on the NAS.

Is it a good idea?

Please share your thoughts!

Thanks and best regards,

Werner
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Maybe I should split the whole thing: database into the cloud and all other parts like covers etc. remains on the NAS.

Wouldn't work, since the coverscans are part of the database.

But in general you could move your database to a cloud based service.
The only restriction you have: Only one user at a time can access the database.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
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I see...

Well, I will give it a try though and put the complete database to the cloud and report if the performance is good... or not...     

Have a nice day!

Best regards,

Werner
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Hi,

I tried to upload the database into my cloud storage but upload speed was way too slow so I decided to give up for now.

The reason for the slow upload speed is because I use 3G/HSPA. Download speed is ok, by the way.

So I will keep all DVDP files on my NAS.

Best regards,

Werner
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When connecting to the Internet with a mobile connection a cloud based database isn't a too good idea anyway.

Usually when a certain data-limit is reached your connection speed gets downsized significantly. Since every profile you look at means traffic this limit can be reached very fast.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
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ooops, I just found out that my 3G USB stick doesn't support HSUPA, it has an upload speed of 384 kbit/s only... 

In the afternoon I will try another 3G stick which supports up to 5.76 MBit/s upload speed. I hope o² supports HSUPA in Frankfurt/Germany... 

Best regards,

Werner
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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CIFS (SMB) protocol is notoriously slow if network have latency. Make sure you connection has low ping value, otherwise it will be slow even if you have 100MB/s bandwidth. SMB 2.0 on Windows 7 made things a bit better, but latency still plays a very big role on performance issues.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
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Hi all!

thanks for the tipps but I gave up... 

CloudMe has an upload speed of 250 kb/s max. no matter if I am on HSUPA or not. However, I started transfer being optimistic but then the time counter increased rapidly... I stopped transfer when the counter reached an estimated finish time of more than 8 hours  until I stopped I transferred app. 7 MB of my 70 MB database.

Seems to me that WebDAV is NOT made for speed...   

As already stated I will keep my DVDP on the NAS. My WiFi N with 300 MBits performs VERY well!

Nice idea having the DVDP database in the cloud but for me it does not work due to slow connection.

All, have a nice day!

Best regards,

Werner
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Did you ever try one of those remote desktop solutions? That way the database remains on your NAS.

Another way is to use a router with an attached USB NAS configured for remote access.

Another way is to use DVDP remote sharing, again with your router ports set up per Invelos directions.

Maybe one of these methods could reduce the latency to acceptable levels.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
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Hi,

DVDP is currently configured to use the folders on my NAS, why would I need a remote desktop solution?

I am not able to reach that NAS from the internet because my provider uses private IP addresses only. Those addresses are not reachable via DynDNS or similar, but correct me if I am wrong.

I looked for a free WebDAV online hard drive and found CloudMe but upload speed is too slow for throwing a 70 MB database on the cloud...

Best regards,

Werner
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Hi,

DVDP is currently configured to use the folders on my NAS, why would I need a remote desktop solution?

I am not able to reach that NAS from the internet because my provider uses private IP addresses only. Those addresses are not reachable via DynDNS or similar, but correct me if I am wrong.

I looked for a free WebDAV online hard drive and found CloudMe but upload speed is too slow for throwing a 70 MB database on the cloud...

Best regards,

Werner


Couldn't you use Port Forwarding?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantLewis_Prothero
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Couldn't you use Port Forwarding?


If one would want to implement a security whole as wide as Minnesota, sure. Else: better not.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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Quoting jobbanobba:
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DVDP is currently configured to use the folders on my NAS, why would I need a remote desktop solution?

Figure it out yet?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
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hmmmm... seems that I do not understand 

My WiFi N router receives a private  IP address (range 89.xxx.xxx.xxx) from o² via 3G connection. I googled and found that private IP addresses cannot be reached via DynDNS because NAT is in use.

So Port Forwarding has no use, right? I tried all of those things: no luck so far.

Best regards,

Werner
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You should get a "normal" public IP for your router when you disable the proxy.

Not sure how O2 handles this though. It might be that the proxy is required.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantjobbanobba
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No, there's no proxy.

Trust me, I tried everything... right now I am trying to upload the database to my cloud drive, transfer stops at different percentage, it is driving me nuts.

Werner
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