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DVDP database in cloud?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantmediadogg
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No, there's no proxy.

Trust me, I tried everything... right now I am trying to upload the database to my cloud drive, transfer stops at different percentage, it is driving me nuts.

Werner

I am not totally clear on what you are trying to do and why. I had orginally assumed that you would be using multiple PCs as you travelled around, and you wanted to be able to get to your database. But it seems that you will be travelling with the computer, but not the NAS. Is this correct?

In that case, why not just put the database on the PC (or USB stick)? I'm suspecting that you might have an unstated purpose. What you are doing does not make sense for such a small database. What did I miss?
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My thought was:

store the database in the cloud and feeding it from various win 7 machines while at home or somewhere else. Chosen cloud provider www.cloudme.com was not the best one I found out in the meantime...

I changed to www.mydisk.se and upload succeeded. However, DVDP tells me that it cannot find the file users.dat but it is there, I checked it.

Any ideas?
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No, there's no proxy.

Trust me,


Oh, there will be one. Just one that you cannot configure.
With a private (network internal) IP-adress only you wouldn't be able to access the internet at all.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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yes, you're right regarding the proxy! 

After all those attempts with the cloud storage and accessing my NAS from outside of my home network I think I have tested enough to say that it will not work as I imaginated.

However, if anyone has more ideas let me know! 

Werner
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Quoting Lewis_Prothero:
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With a private (network internal) IP-adress only you wouldn't be able to access the internet at all.

Are you mixing a proxy and a gateway?
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store the database in the cloud and feeding it from various win 7 machines ...

Not sure what you mean by "feeding it". DVDP is a single user system. If you think that multiple machines (users) will be updating a shared database concurrently, forget it. You are not going to get a muti-user shared DVD database for $30. That is a commercial solution. DVDP so far, has been designed to be a personal use system.

Again, if you simply want to access a master database from anywhere, anytime - just leave it on your NAS and remotely login to a machine that sits on your home network. Or use Windows Home Server. I really don't understand the need for a "cloud" in your case.
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I know that I am able to add records to the database from one pc at a time, I do not need a multi-user system.

Cloud usage is just like playing around with networking and learning by doing for me, there is no real 'need'.

And yes, I would be able to use an USB stick to carry my database with me, but I like networking.

If there's the possibility to get things working in the cloud why not try out? If it does not work, well okay then, that's learning.

I would like to have the database available anywhere over network, that's all
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Fair enough. I appreciate the honest answer. We all enjoy learning new things and I respect that but I was feeling uncomfortable that you had a problem that I didn't understand, and therefore I couldn't help. Good luck - I'll check back sometimes to see how it is going, and get the benefit of what you have learned.
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I found a solution based on a posting within this thread! 

Digitus has a mini NAS adapter where you can attach any USB storage device easily. This little thing is that small so that I can carry it to the holiday flat where I have another WiFi router. Moreover I 'reactivated' an 1.8" external hard disk with 30 GB (from an old ARCHOS media player), put in an external case and BINGO!  That's my new everywhere database! Performance is totally sufficient and satisfying.

Thanks for all your support!

Have a nice weekend!

Werner
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Very clever indeed!
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For all users who want to do what I did, here is the info regarding the NAS adapter I mentioned:

http://www.digitus.info/en/products/network/network-attached-storage/mini-nas-server-for-external-usb-hdd-dn-7023-1/

I paid € 29.99 at a local electronics dealer.

If you want to attach an external hard drive or USB stick: the device MUST be formatted with FAT32! There are some other firmwares around in the net for the NAS allowing usage of NTFS but you will experience a dramatic decrease of performance and increase of database errors if you flash them. Keep the original firmware and everything's fine. I tested it!

Werner
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Am I missing something here? Why don't you just keep your db in USB memory stick? Why make things so complicated?
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It's that simple, just like I wrote before:

1. I just like networking
2. I don't want to put the usb stick here and there and then lose it by accident.

At the moment the usb hdd is attached to the network and I have access over network, of course from one PC at a time 

No need to carry it to this pc and that pc or forgetting it, leaving it and so on. I like it to have it in a central place.

I do not force anyone to do the same! I found a solution for myself and that's it. If anyone finds it useful, well, that's fine! Otherwise just ignore it.

Werner
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Surely if you are using a NAS this is the opposite to cloud storage? As you store things in the cloud to get away from running your own centralised storage system.

I do something similar to what it sounds like you were trying to achieve in dvd profiler but with a recipe database progam.

I have a free dropbox account and set up folders linked to it on my home and work pcs. I then put the recipe database files into the matching folders on each pc and point the program to them there.

Every time I add a recipe on my home pc dropbox automatically updates the databse copies in the cloud and then in turn notifies the client on my work pc to pull down new copies next time it connects. This way the database at work stays perfectly in sync with the one on my laptop and I can print out a recipe at work to buy ingredients on the way home.

I'm sure the same could work for the dvd profiler database, keeping the program in sync over multiple computers and maintaining a cloud backup without the need for any additional hardware.

That said, the my profler page effectively is clous storage of your database. All dropbox would do is automate the update process.
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Every time I add a recipe on my home pc dropbox automatically updates the databse copies in the cloud and then in turn notifies the client on my work pc to pull down new copies next time it connects. This way the database at work stays perfectly in sync with the one on my laptop and I can print out a recipe at work to buy ingredients on the way home.

I assume that the write process to cloud isn't real time. It just does a sync at set time. If I got that correct what actually happens if on computer A you edit profile A and on computer B you edit profile B when sync happens on eather computer you loose some data.
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Hi,

I had a DropBox account, too, but cancelled it and changed to Google Drive.

I don't know if it would be possible to set up a DVD Profiler database in Google Drive due to sync versus real time.

However, I was able to test my solution recently in the holiday flat and it worked like a charm. Back home I connected the little NAS to my home network and everything's fine. So that's my very private little cloud storage. 

Werner
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