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Common Name of Visual Effects Supervisor Micheal J. McAlister
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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No sir, you are NOT following the Rules.Sorry, you can make yourself believe you are, but the facts are another thing entirely. You are not documenting your changes adequately, and you are including data which Profiler does not use.

And Knocked Up, My Blue Heaven, if you want to include ADR you are free to do so, we have Custom Crew data now, but the ADR is part of the Sound Department NOT cast

Skip
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Billy Video
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Yes, of course, "if there is a dispute over whether the credit references the same person", but there isn't a dispute. With that interpretation, you could argue that ANY use of common names still requires full documentation, which is clearly the exact opposite of what Ken said. Skip will ask his question EVERY SINGLE TIME: if we consider all of those "disputes", then Ken's ruling would be meaningless. But it's not. If you've got specific information showing something is wrong, then by all means, please go ahead and say so. But no more generally questioning everything without any basis at all. It's as Ken said: the users who tend to question everything, those that prefer more rigidly documented common names, are perfectly free to enforce those rules on their local data. They are, however, no longer allowed to force those personal standards onto the rest of us.

Skip didn't raise the possibility that they could be two different people: he merely questioned the fact without giving so much as a hint as to why he would feel this way. Again: that question can be asked for ANY common name usage. Now if someone comes up with a solid REASON, like being able to say: well, I've got a source that shows that they're different people, then we have a dispute, and further documentation is required. We've seen that in the Tennyson Sebastian-thread, for example. Merely questioning every common name usage without basis is not a dispute, and is exactly what Ken's ruling was meant to address.

I dispute ALL assumptions and undocumented and unsupported Contributions, Tim, such as yours.

Skip
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Billy Video
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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you are certainly NOT deserving of your star, and I truly mean that

So basically, it's all just jealousy?     

I'm just following the rules. Always have, always will. I understand that's a new concept to you, but that's really all it is. Period.


Not at all, Tim. In fact, I have publcly stated that unicus deserves his. What it tells me is that your misbehavior is rewarded.

Your ad hominem attacks and insults are rewarded and even ignored.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
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Credited as Micheal J. McAlister (total of 10):

Abandon (according to CLT)
Demolition Man (checked by me)
Die Hard 2: Die Harder (checked by me)
Howard the Duck (checked by Nick)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (checked by me)
Orange County (checked by tweeter)
Thirteen Days (checked by James)
The Truman Show (checked by me)
Waterworld (checked by Kevin)
X-Men (checked by me)

Credited as Michael J. McAlister (total of 2):

Ali (checked by .)
Indiana Jones: Bonus Material (checked by me)

Credited as Micheal McAlister (total of 3):

Free Willy 2 (checked by James)
The Goonies (checked by Pete)
Willow (checked by me)

Credited as Michael McAlister (total of 3):

Eragon (checked by alinoe)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (checked by Pete)
Star Wars: Ewok Adventures (according to CLT)
Martin Zuidervliet

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
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I'm just following the rules. Always have, always will.

No, you are following your interpretation of the rules and Ken's statements.  I am not saying you are wrong to do so as it is something that we all do, but it will have unfortunate consequences.  You submit based on your interpretation, I submit based on mine, someone else submits based on theirs, etc., etc.  Eventually, instead of the standardized main database the rules say we are after, we end up with a hodgepodge. 

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So basically, it's all just jealousy?     
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I understand that's a new concept to you, but that's really all it is. Period.

I thought little throwaway comments like these tended to annoy you?  Were they really necessary? 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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So much for moderation... 
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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So much for moderation... 

Moderation only works if it is applied equally to every user.  As I said in a different thread, I believe there is a double standard in these forums.  While some people are taken to task for their snide remarks and throwaway comments, others are given a free pass.  If you want a friendly forum, everybody has to be held to the same standard.  JMHO.

I apologize for taking this off topic and return you to you regularly scheduled discussion. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
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Time to lock this thread!
Or at least to edit some posts.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributortweeter
I aim to misbehave
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Time to lock this thread!
Or at least to edit some posts.

Or add some links proving they are the same person.  <whistling innocently>
Bad movie?  You're soaking in it!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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Time to lock this thread!
Or at least to edit some posts.

Or add some links proving they are the same person.  <whistling innocently>

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Billy Video
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Please eliminate the personal attacks or we will have to start removing posts.  The discussion is welcome but it can be done without the personal comments.
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Mr. Baseball - Michael J. McAlister - Visual Effects Supervisor
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