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Scott Rudin
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorruineddaydreams
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kdh:  the by for scott rudin was already in my database, and apparently already in invelos....
-JoN
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After going through all 940 Profiles in the Credit Lookup I found 14 profiles in which the Birth Year is attached. Oddly enough none are from the US locality, so how this got propagated to the US is puzzling to me. Here are the profiles that have the BY in case anyone wants to submit removals of the BY for them.

Clueless
UPC: 4-010889-010843
Locality: Germany

Freedomland: Rental Version
UPC: 8-712609-682557
Locality: Netherlands

Das Gesicht der Wahrheit
UPC: 4-030521-412668
Locality: Germany

J'adore Huckabees
UPC: 3-344428-021061
Locality: France

Jennifer 8: Widescreen Collection
UPC: 4-010884-503838
Locality: Germany

Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events: A Very Unfortunate 2-Disc Set
UPC: 5-051188-134631
Locality: United Kingdom

The Manchurian Candidate: Rental Version
UPC: I04FB0A9939F48176
Locality: Netherlands

Orange County
UPC: 5-014437-820334
Locality: United Kingdom

The Queen
UPC: 5-060002-835128
Locality: United Kingdom

The Queen
UPC: 8-716777-920510
Locality: Netherlands

The Queen: Rental Version
UPC: 8-716777-059722
Locality: Netherlands

A Rainha
UPC: 5-608652-030595
Locality: Portugal

The Truman Show
UPC: 5-601887-409730
Locality: Portugal

Wonder Boys
UPC: 0-044007-846827
Locality: United Kingdom


this is one of the most useful posts here - thank you for your hard work - i have downloaded these profiles to my wishlist to gain access to their contribution notes... and what i have found is quite remarkable...

For the Record: many of these titles state "new contribution" as the only notations, several others are from the same user who was rejected several times due to birth year stuff... but then was finally approved.... and some are from a user that did PM me about my most recent submissions, however he makes no notation of the birth year and this user has not participated in this thread to this point...

This title in particular though... was of most interest....

The Truman Show
UPC: 5-601887-409730
Locality: Portugal






Skip - I was unaware that you are a collector of Portuguese DVD's... As this is one of the titles in the database that has the approved birth year credit... and you are the only contributer.... can you please explain?
-JoN
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Stop messing my Country's database, you! 

       
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That BY was already there and I di nothing with it at that time, I am only occasssionally trying to get cast and Crew data right, i am not going to mess with BY data oer Common name data in such instances Jon. But good try.

You still have not esplained why you are coninuing to propagate data that you now know violates the Rules. Like I said the Rule is CLEAR and Concise and means what it says.

Skip
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Outta here

Billy Video
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That BY was already there and I di nothing with it at that time, I am only occasssionally trying to get cast and Crew data right, i am not going to mess with BY data oer Common name data in such instances Jon. But good try.

You still have not esplained why you are coninuing to propagate data that you now know violates the Rules. Like I said the Rule is CLEAR and Concise and means what it says.

Skip



I fully disagree - Since you are so adamant about your stance on this... you should have removed the birth year and cited sources when you re-submitted... never mind the fact that there is no other submissions and it would be impossible for this title to get birth year data from 2.4....

i will also ignore the fact that I highly doubt you have this dvd to actually confirm anything from the actual source... but I am sure you would cast a vote on it should someone change anything....
-JoN
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Jon:

I have been around the horn on this topic and the one you are trying to revisit. Sorry if you missed that one. But I have said my peace and my opinion stands for me this thread is over and done with and your further attempts at baiting will fall on deaf ears.

Skip
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
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fine with me - looking forward to a ruling from invelos on this...
-JoN
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fine with me - looking forward to a ruling from invelos on this...

I'm looking forward to it as well. I see you've modified the notes in question to include:

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*EDIT* SEE POST HERE BEFORE VOTING - SCREENERS: SEE DISCUSSION BEFORE RULING

http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=246785&messageID=550791#M550791

I think that's an excellent constructive idea to include that. High five (and a green pill) from me. 
...James

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That BY was already there and I di nothing with it at that time, I am only occasssionally trying to get cast and Crew data right, i am not going to mess with BY data oer Common name data in such instances Jon. But good try.

You still have not esplained why you are coninuing to propagate data that you now know violates the Rules. Like I said the Rule is CLEAR and Concise and means what it says.

Skip

How come that you are the only entry in the contribution notes? I have only one explanation: this is a legacy profile which has be transferred from Intervocative to Invelos by Ken's import. But this would not explain how there could have been a birth year associated to the profile.
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Quick question: How was it confirmed that there's only one Scott Rudin?

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Quick question: How was it confirmed that there's only one Scott Rudin?

KM


It wasn't...  So far the best argument i've heard is... IMDB     
-JoN
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That BY was already there and I di nothing with it at that time, I am only occasssionally trying to get cast and Crew data right, i am not going to mess with BY data oer Common name data in such instances Jon. But good try.

You still have not esplained why you are coninuing to propagate data that you now know violates the Rules. Like I said the Rule is CLEAR and Concise and means what it says.

Skip

How come that you are the only entry in the contribution notes? I have only one explanation: this is a legacy profile which has be transferred from Intervocative to Invelos by Ken's import. But this would not explain how there could have been a birth year associated to the profile.


Ken did not "import" any profiles from the Intervocative database into the Invelos database.

Every profile had to be contributed new.
Hal
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Personally, I have a problem with automatically propagating BYs through the database just because they have been accepted by Invelos.  The screeners accept bad data all the time.  Propagating that bad data is a bad thing!

My position is that when you submit a change to the database it is your responsibility to validate that what you are submitting is correct regardless of what anyone has submitted before you.

This applies both to the Scott Rudin updates submitted by Jon (or anyone else) as well as the Portugal profile submitted by Skip without any validation.
Hal
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Hal:

After Invelos acquired Intervocative, Ken merged the databases...
-JoN
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After going through all 940 Profiles in the Credit Lookup I found 14 profiles in which the Birth Year is attached. Oddly enough none are from the US locality, so how this got propagated to the US is puzzling to me. Here are the profiles that have the BY in case anyone wants to submit removals of the BY for them.

Clueless
UPC: 4-010889-010843
Locality: Germany

Freedomland: Rental Version
UPC: 8-712609-682557
Locality: Netherlands

Das Gesicht der Wahrheit
UPC: 4-030521-412668
Locality: Germany

J'adore Huckabees
UPC: 3-344428-021061
Locality: France

Jennifer 8: Widescreen Collection
UPC: 4-010884-503838
Locality: Germany

Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events: A Very Unfortunate 2-Disc Set
UPC: 5-051188-134631
Locality: United Kingdom

The Manchurian Candidate: Rental Version
UPC: I04FB0A9939F48176
Locality: Netherlands

Orange County
UPC: 5-014437-820334
Locality: United Kingdom

The Queen
UPC: 5-060002-835128
Locality: United Kingdom

The Queen
UPC: 8-716777-920510
Locality: Netherlands

The Queen: Rental Version
UPC: 8-716777-059722
Locality: Netherlands

A Rainha
UPC: 5-608652-030595
Locality: Portugal

The Truman Show
UPC: 5-601887-409730
Locality: Portugal

Wonder Boys
UPC: 0-044007-846827
Locality: United Kingdom


this is one of the most useful posts here - thank you for your hard work - i have downloaded these profiles to my wishlist to gain access to their contribution notes... and what i have found is quite remarkable...

For the Record: many of these titles state "new contribution" as the only notations, several others are from the same user who was rejected several times due to birth year stuff... but then was finally approved.... and some are from a user that did PM me about my most recent submissions, however he makes no notation of the birth year and this user has not participated in this thread to this point...


I assume the user you are referring to in your last paragraph is me? I've made contributions for 2 or 3 of the UK profiles in your list (Lemony Snicket, The Queen, Wonder Boys - I think), but have certainly not purposefully added any birth year for Scott Rudin to the online database. I've been very strict on removing unnecessary birth years before contributing profiles - the only way these 3 profiles could possibly contain a birth year added by me would be if I submitted them as new profiles before the check box for birth years was added, and the birth year for Rudin was then also submitted due to it having been added to my database from another profile I'd downloaded.

I made a Feature Request about this last June, and my 2 posts there pretty much explain what might have happened IF this birth year was propagated by me into these 3 profiles:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=171268&messageID=303260#M303260

Anyway, I have never meant to include a birth year for Scott Rudin in any of my contributions, as there is no need for one. If I by mistake have contributed his birth year to the 3 aforementioned profiles then I apologize, as this was not my intention.
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Ken did not "import" any profiles from the Intervocative database into the Invelos database.

Every profile had to be contributed new.


Not quite true Hal, once all the legal issues between Intervocative and Invelos were over, Ken did do a batch import of any outstanding profiles - I believe he only chose those with cover scans as they were more likely to be valid. I think he had other criteria too, but can't remember if he said what they were.
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