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Quoting The Movieman:
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what info do you keep locally that can't be contributed to the database?

Custom crew roles, custom cover art, home-made video recordings, and cast  & crew headshots.

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You could also set a condition based on text found in your notes field.

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1. Make frequent (full) backups of your DVDPro database.  (Make sure your backups are in a safe and accessible place.)
2. Restore your most recent DVDPro backup (from your old PC) to the DVDPro installation on your new PC.
3. Your cast photos should be restored if you used a full backup file.

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Quoting GSyren:
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I don't like it when cast and crew is copied from one profile to another.

I completely agree.

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Quoting rdodolak:
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What qualifies as evidence to change the release date?

I'd say that if the publisher is selling and shipping their product two weeks before the "release date" that their Official Release Date is not accurate and should not be used as the original release date in the online database.  (Example)

A disc in the hand is worth two press releases.

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Quoting Kathy:
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Sources for contributions "must" include a source per Ken. Here is his quote:

So, it's not in The Rules.

Ken's comment would seem to allow one to use their invoice and/or delivery confirmation as documentation.

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Quoting The Movieman:
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Seriously, still looking for a valid reason why the October date should stick.

No, you're not (IMO).

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Quoting Kathy:
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What source are you going to use to prove the release date? There isn't source, allowed by invelos' rules, that would accept your early release date data.

What source(s) do The Rules say to use for release dates?  Here is the closest thing I can find:
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The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself.  Please don't submit content from a third party database, and always verify the specifications printed on the cover.  In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible.

If you use the DVD itself then I would say the date you acquired it from your retailer is more legitimate than anything printed on a third party web site.

And it isn't "early release date data", it's original release date data.

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Quoting rdodolak:
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Actually, WB doesn't own or operate WBShop.com any more.

I know, but that's hardly relevant since when you click on the "shop" link at www.warnerbros.com it forwards you to www.wbshop.com.

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Quoting AlunH:
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You've confirmed that the publisher's own site has an official release date.  That's the release date.  There's no ambiguity of any kind here - I have no idea why you're questioning this.

The ambiguity lies in the fact that the publisher's own site has revised that date several times in the past week, after the original release date and receipt of pre-orders by customers.

wbshop.com originally listed October 30 as the release date.  Then on October 29 they stated that copies would ship "within 10 days."  By November 2 they revised it again listing November 20 as the release date.  The date on wbshop.com has been a moving target.

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Quoting AlunH:
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I don't understand why you can't see that you've answered your own question: you agree that WB have changed the release date.

"The DVD Release Date is always the date of Original Release."  WB's "changed release date" was done at such a late date that supplies were already shipping to arrive to customers by the "Original Release" date.

If all you care about is some arbitrary date that's meaningless except to populate a blank data field then none of this matters anyway.

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Quoting Kathy:
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The rules tell us "Use the date when the DVD was first released for sale in its specific locality."

It does NOT tell us to use the date the DVD was first DELIVERED to someone.

WB changed the release date at the last minute and some pre-orders shipped on the original release date.  The fact that WB now has a new (i.e. revised) release date doesn't mean there wasn't an earlier "original release date" where product was released.

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Quoting Kathy:
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The rules tell us "Use the date when the DVD was first released for sale in its specific locality."

In the example above would you agree that the disc is being sold and shipped as of 10/30/2018?

The "release date" of 11/13/2018 is no more real that that "list price" of $22.97 is.

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Quoting The Movieman:
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Actual. And the actual release date is now November 30, 2018.

And what about those actual discs that actual customers received before November 1st, when they were shipped on or before the original release date?

When were they released?

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So what do we mean in DVD Profiler by "Release Date"?  Here is what The Rules say:

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DVD Release Date
Use the date when the DVD was first released for sale in its specific locality. Do not change the DVD Release Date if a release:

Goes out of print and then is subsequently re-released using the same UPC.
Is recalled due to a production error and is subsequently re-released in a corrected version

The DVD Release Date is always the date of Original Release.

In the case of 2001, the original release date was October 30, 2018 and some product was shipped from at least some suppliers on or before that date.  What part of this rule lets us change this original release date?

Are we tracking the announced release date or the actual release date?

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Quoting AlunH:
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I don't see any point in trying to confuse things by ignoring two perfectly good answers.

I haven't ignored anything here, including your non-answer.

There have been instances where DVDs were sold exclusively by one retailer for a period (often 30 days or so) before being widely available.  I don't remember us having to enter the general release release date in those cases, but instead used the initial "limited release" date.  Why should this be different?

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Quoting T!M:
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Note that if "the earliest date that anyone first got their hands on it" became the official approach to this field, then any time a review copy was sent out before the official releasedate, then that would be our date right there.

I don't see any point in trying to confuse things by bringing up review copies.  The Rule clearly states, "Use the date when the DVD was first released for sale in its specific locality. "  My understanding is that these copies being released on October 30 have been sold to customers.

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Quoting 69samael69:
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I would go with the 13th. The publisher has the option to release early, if they so desire, but resellers, like Amazon will likely still have to wait.

Very likely, but The Rules state, "The DVD Release Date is always the date of Original Release", not the date of general release.

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So, do we use the "release date" or the actual release date in our contributions?



This shows a "release date" of 11/13/2018 but says they're shipping as of 10/30/2018, so it's obviously being released prior to the "release date".

By the way, this is the publisher's web site.

Thoughts?

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No.

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Is this an alternate cut to the rated theatrical release?  If there's no rating on the case anywhere then it should be rated either "Unrated" or "NR".

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Quoting 69samael69:
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It's not perfect, since Twenty will sort before Two but it's how I've always done it.

You could take care of that with something along these lines:

Tw 02.0
Tw 02.1
Tw 20

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Quoting 69samael69:
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Thoughts?

My sort title for Goldfinger is "Bond 03", so I think you should do whatever works for you.

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Quoting SpikyCactus:
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I still feel I've let you down, myself down and have committed some terrible, moral crime.

You can easily make up for it by deleting the downloads and discontinuing your Internet service.

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Quoting Mad Rockatansky:
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Needless to deny it.
The situation of abandonment within this site is clear for everyone.

I just had two contributions approved today, and here we are on the forum discussing it.  If we were abandoned the site would be inactive.

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