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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,245 |
| | Posted: | | | | I was just wondering how we credit cast for documentaries.
Let's say that I was doing the cast for a WWII documentary. There is no cast credited at all in either the beginning or end credits. But I see famous military people such as Hitler, F.D.R., and Patton.
The footage could be from newsreels or similar material. They are not interviewed. Sometimes they speak and sometimes it's just footage of them.
Who would be credited and does it matter in which year the documentary was made? |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 820 |
| | Posted: | | | | As far as I am aware we don't credit archive footage in films so by extension that would cover documentaries also. I would have thought that you would credit the narrator and crew only. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only credits I've ever seen for documentaries list interviewees who appear in the film. I agree with Telecine that I wouldn't list anyone appearing in archive footage either. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote:
I was just wondering how we credit cast for documentaries.
Let's say that I was doing the cast for a WWII documentary. There is no cast credited at all in either the beginning or end credits. But I see famous military people such as Hitler, F.D.R., and Patton.
The footage could be from newsreels or similar material. They are not interviewed. Sometimes they speak and sometimes it's just footage of them.
Who would be credited and does it matter in which year the documentary was made? We don't do credits for archive footage. You can credit an announcer, and they usually list a producer and director who can be credited, and there may be other crew members that fit our parameters. Year of production is usually listed as the copyright notice on documentaries. | | | John
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | I use the following:
Narrators and people who are interviewed or a make appearances specifically for the documentary. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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  | Berak | | Bibamus morieundum est! |
| Registered: May 10, 2007 |  Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | If they're not specifically mentioned in the credits - leave them out.... | | | Berak
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,014 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just narrators and interviewees makes sense to me, too. There are however profiles in the Invelos database that list just about anyone... Perhaps it's time for a clean-up!
And yes, I think the production year does matter. It will help putting things into perspective to know in which year a documentary was produced, given what was known at the time about the topic of the film. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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 | Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm adding the profile for the documentary White Diamond (2007). I stumbled upon a problem.
During the documentary when a interviewee makes his/her first appearance s/he gets a credit marker with his/her role (well kinda, the documentary is about Kylie Minogue and when Dannii Minogue appears she is credited as 'Sister', or when a member of her world tour appears s/he is credited as Production manager or as dancer etc.). The End credits also credit most interviewees with their job descriptions (role). Should I add the credited documentary 'cast' with or without their roles (their job descriptions)? | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,014 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'd say with their roles, because that's how they are credited in the film itself. From the Contribution Rules:
"For any film with standard credits, take the actor information from the end credits only, with names and roles listed exactly as they are in the credits and in exactly the same order credited."
If it's possible to follow the rules as they are, just do so! |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Okay thanks for your fast reply!
I agree. I will take the cast as credited in the end credits.
Thanks again! | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would not include subtitles as roles in cast credits for a documentary, because the only roles tend to be Narrator and Interviewee. Or perhaps using "himself" or "herself". The subtitles that appear below their names are not roles. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,311 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting nolesrule: Quote:
I would not include subtitles as roles in cast credits for a documentary, because the only roles tend to be Narrator and Interviewee. Or perhaps using "himself" or "herself". The subtitles that appear below their names are not roles. except you missed where it was said that is how they are listed in the end credits as well. So in this case at least you would use them... exactly as the end credits as per the rules. | | | | Pete |
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
Quoting nolesrule:
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I would not include subtitles as roles in cast credits for a documentary, because the only roles tend to be Narrator and Interviewee. Or perhaps using "himself" or "herself". The subtitles that appear below their names are not roles.
except you missed where it was said that is how they are listed in the end credits as well. So in this case at least you would use them... exactly as the end credits as per the rules. Indeed, most of the interviewees are listed in the end credits the same way as in the subtitles at their first appearance in the documentary (I used the phrase 'credit marker' instead of 'subtitle' in my previous post). Only a few persons are in the end credits listed without role. For those persons I won't use the subtitle credits, but the end credits instead. | | | | Cor | | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Posts: 366 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yeah, I guess I either misread it or misunderstood it. It's 14 hours later so I can't remember which.  |
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