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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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The cover is not 'wrong'.  There are a few minor differences, but the covers look the same.  They did not change the images or the text.  I am sorry, but I am not willing to sacrifice quality for 'nit picking' of differences...but that's just me. 
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You are voting to keep re-release imgaes in the DB, so you are voting against the rules.


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I ended up changing my vote to neutral. I was reading that it was the original release but it wasn't registering for some reason.

but I still feel I can't vote yes on it as it does still violate the other rule... and I personally don't feel I can say one rule trumps the other in this case.
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I ended up changing my vote to neutral. I was reading that it was the original release but it wasn't registering for some reason.

but I still feel I can't vote yes on it as it does still violate the other rule... and I personally don't feel I can say one rule trumps the other in this case.



Just using your comment as a jumpin off pont -- this is aimed at everybody:  It should be a given that correct information, whether it be cover scans or data, is the primary objective, and that other considerations such as picture quality (or whatever other critieria is in question) take a secondary position.

If it is wrong, it is wrong, and should not be allowed into the database, even if its the BEST DAMNED WRONG that ever was!
John

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I ended up changing my vote to neutral. I was reading that it was the original release but it wasn't registering for some reason.

but I still feel I can't vote yes on it as it does still violate the other rule... and I personally don't feel I can say one rule trumps the other in this case.



Just using your comment as a jumpin off pont -- this is aimed at everybody:  It should be a given that correct information, whether it be cover scans or data, is the primary objective, and that other considerations such as picture quality (or whatever other critieria is in question) take a secondary position.

If it is wrong, it is wrong, and should not be allowed into the database, even if its the BEST DAMNED WRONG that ever was!


For crying out loud, calm down.
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I ended up changing my vote to neutral. I was reading that it was the original release but it wasn't registering for some reason.

but I still feel I can't vote yes on it as it does still violate the other rule... and I personally don't feel I can say one rule trumps the other in this case.



Just using your comment as a jumpin off pont -- this is aimed at everybody:  It should be a given that correct information, whether it be cover scans or data, is the primary objective, and that other considerations such as picture quality (or whatever other critieria is in question) take a secondary position.

If it is wrong, it is wrong, and should not be allowed into the database, even if its the BEST DAMNED WRONG that ever was!


For crying out loud, calm down.


I am calm.  Just emphasizing something that some people seem not to follow.  I see far too many voting for something that might technically be better, but is still wrong anyway.
John

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You are voting to keep re-release imgaes in the DB, so you are voting against the rules.


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That is your opinion...and you are welcome to it...I just don't agree.

The images are virtualy identical.  There are very minor changes to the rating and the audio section.  99% of the cover is exactly the same.

The new scans are not good at all.  Quality is more important that minor differences...at least in my opinion.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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You are voting to keep re-release imgaes in the DB, so you are voting against the rules.


Good job. Thumbs Up.    


That is your opinion...and you are welcome to it...I just don't agree.

The images are virtualy identical.  There are very minor changes to the rating and the audio section.  99% of the cover is exactly the same.

The new scans are not good at all.  Quality is more important that minor differences...at least in my opinion.



I'll remember this next time you give ANYONE a hard time about ANYTHING.
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It's still voting against the rules.  Vote how you should vote and then lock the cover on your profile.
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You are voting to keep re-release imgaes in the DB, so you are voting against the rules.


Good job. Thumbs Up.    


That is your opinion...and you are welcome to it...I just don't agree.

The images are virtualy identical.  There are very minor changes to the rating and the audio section.  99% of the cover is exactly the same.

The new scans are not good at all.  Quality is more important that minor differences...at least in my opinion.



I'll remember this next time you give ANYONE a hard time about ANYTHING.


You do that. 

I already explained how I interpret these rules.  If you don't agree, fine, but do you really have to act like a...well, never mind...it really isn't worth it.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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It's still voting against the rules.  Vote how you should vote and then lock the cover on your profile.


As I already explained, I don't think it is voting against the rules.  The primary rule in this case is that the new scans must be "of significantly higher quality than the existing online images."

As the rule is written, it must FIRST be "of significantly higher quality" and then meet the other criteria.  You don't have to agree, but that is how I read that rule...especially since it is a near perfect match.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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*shrug*  I guess this will be decided when Ken/Geri evaluates it.
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*shrug*  I guess this will be decided when Ken/Geri evaluates it.


Umm...didn't that already happen?  Looking at the notes it was already declined once and the notes clearly state the same thing they do now. 
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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Reading the Rules...

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Before submitting new scans of cover art, make sure your new covers are of significantly higher quality than the existing online images, and meet the following criteria:

    * The covers must match the profile exactly, including the UPC and locality.
    * Image size must be at least as large as the existing online covers. If you don't have a premium registration, you will be unable to verify this. Therefore, submit only images you have personally scanned at 100 DPI or higher.
    * If you scan images for your personal database at a quality that are higher than 100 DPI, you may still submit them. If accepted, they will automatically be downsized for inclusion in the main database.
    * Image quality must be at least on par with the existing online covers. Covers that are larger than existing images but are of inferior clarity will not be accepted.
    * Images must not contain extra watermarks, autographs, or site links.
    * Images must be of the front and back only. Do not include the spine in either the front or back image.
    * Make sure neither front nor back is of lesser quality than the existing scans.
    * If a DVD is packaged in a keep case, within a slipcase of some kind, scan the Cover Images from the outer slipcase. If, however, the Slipcase is reflective, and the inner cover art is identical, use the Keep Case art to scan, as it will give a better quality image.
    * If a title is re-released with the same UPC, but different cover images do not contribute the new images. This includes cases where a DVD was initially released in a slipcase, which was later removed. As explained in the introduction you may use your personal images in your local database, but they will not show online.
    * Do not contribute generic "Coming Soon" images. If the back image is not yet available (as in a pre-release), use the front images in both places.


don't cover scans have to follow ALL the rules? And if we do want to give priority to anything above the other... it would make sense to me going by the rules you would go down the list as it is mentioned... so if that is the case Quality is up there much higher.

Now I agree that it is important to get the original version back into the database... but not at a loss of quality... so by the way I read the rules... the quality must be at least as good as what is up there now.
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It's still voting against the rules.  Vote how you should vote and then lock the cover on your profile.


As I already explained, I don't think it is voting against the rules.  The primary rule in this case is that the new scans must be "of significantly higher quality than the existing online images."

As the rule is written, it must FIRST be "of significantly higher quality" and then meet the other criteria.  You don't have to agree, but that is how I read that rule...especially since it is a near perfect match.


You are dead wrong.  The primary objective is that the cover be the correct cover.  When and if that is established, THEN you can determine whether or not it is good enough to use.
John

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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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don't cover scans have to follow ALL the rules? And if we do want to give priority to anything above the other... it would make sense to me going by the rules you would go down the list as it is mentioned... so if that is the case Quality is up there much higher.

Now I agree that it is important to get the original version back into the database... but not at a loss of quality... so by the way I read the rules... the quality must be at least as good as what is up there now.


That is exactly how I see it.  Thanks for, at the very least, proving that I am not completely out there.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
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