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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorpompel9
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I have already told you why I don't read his or hers no votes, because he or her always vote no. I read everyone else no vote, and when or if I have done an error I check and see if I'm wrong. If I do I fix it.

Edited: To make my post more clear.
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But the question is... even if he/she always votes no how do you know that in this particular case whatever reason he voted no for is not a legitimate reason? Just because they vote no every time don't necessarily mean that the reason this time is not a real reason.

If someone voted no to all my contributions... I would still read the reason... just on the off chance the no vote is right. Especially if that is the only vote there is.

I am not saying the no vote is right... just that you don't know if you don't read it. Not to mention... if you don't read it you can't update your notes to support why you are right and the no vote is wrong.

I had to do this just today when someone voted no to me adding an additional disc ID to a profile.
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But the question is... even if he/she always votes no how do you know that in this particular case whatever reason he voted no for is not a legitimate reason? Just because they vote no every time don't necessarily mean that the reason this time is not a real reason.

If someone voted no to all my contributions... I would still read the reason... just on the off chance the no vote is right. Especially if that is the only vote there is.


That's true, but the attitude some display in their reasoning for a no vote(s) makes them not worth reading IMO.
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Well.. you can't control the attitudes of other people obviously. But if you don't at least read the no vote that you get... I personally can't see the sense in getting upset about a decline. I mean after all you got a no vote... if you don't read it you can't fix a problem if there is one... and at the same time you can't dispute a false claim if there isn't a problem.
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That's true, but the attitude some display in their reasoning for a no vote(s) makes them not worth reading IMO.


While it's true there are some that look hostile/aggressive/etc... in their no votes, it's not always that they were intended to be. Due to the relatively short field, it's sometimes difficult to get the message across without removing some words, thereby changing the intended tone.
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That is very true as well.
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I often send a pm before I vote no. I have, as my grandfather used to say, "verbal diarrhea" and the comment field is inadequate for me to get my point across.

When I receive a "no" vote I always assess my contribution. At times I send a pm for further clarification. I correct it if I have made a clear mistake. If the correct answer is not clear, I leave it for the screeners to decide.

The issue of chronic "no" voters is something else. I too have chronic "no" voter which can be frustrating when most of the time it is not legitimate. Like the boy who called "wolf",  one wants to ignore that voter based on their previous actions.

If those votes are an abuse of voting privileges, which are to be avoided per invelos rules, notification to Ken or Gerri might be the answer.
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I don't know what's going here, but every time he or she contribute it goes trough. Atleast the same DVDs he/she and me have common. I vote yes on many of his/hers updates because they are right, but when I vote no it still goes trough. Every time he/she votes no on my contributions it gets rejected.
Why should I continue to contribute when this goes on? would any of you?
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As people have said, without specific details, it's impossible to say.

However, regarding "No" votes, Ken ruled that if it's a larger contribution where the bulk is correct, then it's more likely to get accepted & then the incorrect part(s) can be corrected afterwards.
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So that means that if I make a mistake, it will get turned down, but if he/she make a mistake it will go in automaticly?

And that goes for my contributions that are correct also?
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If he's contributing a larger range, say cast, crew, SRP, audio, subtitles, etc... and you're only changing two small areas (like one member of cast and subtitles) then it's possible that even though both may have an error one will get accepted and the other declined.

Edit: To clarify, no profiles are automatically accepted or declined. They're all processed by Invelos.
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If he's contributing a larger range, say cast, crew, SRP, audio, subtitles, etc... and you're only changing two small areas (like one member of cast and subtitles) then it's possible that even though both may have an error one will get accepted and the other declined.

Edit: To clarify, no profiles are automatically accepted or declined. They're all processed by Invelos.


How can you know that some users don't get automatic acceptance? When a rejection comes, there are never any reason. This is why I'm suscpicios.

I know this post will be deleted. I am not accusing anybody, I'm just curios why this keeps happening.

Either way, I have other things do on my freetime, so it's not a big loss for me. It will be for the Norwegian part of the database, since there are few contributors.
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When the screeners consider the votes they also look at the previous hit-rate on your contributions and votes. I have a suspicion that it's because of this that your no votes are ignored and the other guy's aren't.

But without knowing what the last contribution changed and what the no vote said it's only guessing. (I haven't seen any of your lately.)

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How can you know that some users don't get automatic acceptance? When a rejection comes, there are never any reason. This is why I'm suscpicios.


At some point Ken or Gerri have said that there are no contributions that are automatically processed.

As for why each contribution doesn't get a reason - Think about how many contributions are submitted a day across the whole database. For a small company like Invelos, it simply isn't possible to send custom entered reasons for each one. They have a few select pre-set reasons they can choose if applicable. If you haven't had one then they didn't apply.
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How can you know that some users don't get automatic acceptance? When a rejection comes, there are never any reason. This is why I'm suscpicios.


At some point Ken or Gerri have said that there are no contributions that are automatically processed.

As for why each contribution doesn't get a reason - Think about how many contributions are submitted a day across the whole database. For a small company like Invelos, it simply isn't possible to send custom entered reasons for each one. They have a few select pre-set reasons they can choose if applicable. If you haven't had one then they didn't apply.



Please give a link to this statement. I have never seen this.
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For me, I will vote on my wishlist items on things like edition or overview (which I can see from the image scans). If the contribution contains anything I can't confirm look at, I vote neutral.
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