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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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You did move south of the Mason Dixon Line as I recall. 
I don't believe that Maryland is considered "south of the Mason Dixon line".
Not to mention that your stereotyping of southerners is not terribly funny.
I take from your comment, Hal, that you went to school in the south. You have unintentially proved my point.
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The Mason–Dixon Line (or "Mason and Dixon's Line") is a demarcation line between four U.S. states, forming part of the borders of Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, and West Virginia (then part of Virginia).
Sorry, if you don't think "stereotyping" is funny, but as a resident of Maryland since 1970 I am familiar with the current state of our educational system, so it IS funny to me.
Well, your assumption would be totally incorrect, I did not go to school in the South. But even if I had, I don't see how that would have proven anything. Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Don't be so thin skinned. Another example of "I insult a whole group of people, and then tell them that it is their fault that they feel that they've been insulted". Maryland may be south of the Mason Dixon line, but until you have lived in the true south, you cannot appreciate the impact of statements like you made.  | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
Could someone fill my knowledge gap? Why are "Southeners" stupid? Unfortunately, a stereotype has been created in the U.S. that people born and raised in the southern states, especially North and South Carolina, West Virginia, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi are all uneducated (another word for stupid). Part of this, I believe, is based on their regional accent as well as colloquialisms that are common there. The truth is, it is not based on hard facts, but is perpetuated by comments such as those made by kdh1949. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting EnryWiki: Quote:
Are you also going to correct factual errors in the overview? For instance, on the back cover of my copy of The Hunted, it reads that Tommy Lee Jones plays an FBI agent, but in the movie the FBI agent is a woman. 
Yes, of course I also correct factual errors, and I remove spoilers and all what is advertisement and not overview. As I do not contribute anymore, no problem with that... | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting kdh1949:
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Don't be so thin skinned.
Another example of "I insult a whole group of people, and then tell them that it is their fault that they feel that they've been insulted". No, another example of putting words in someone else's mouth. Quote:
Maryland may be south of the Mason Dixon line, but until you have lived in the true south, you cannot appreciate the impact of statements like you made. Bood away, Hal, but you show you aren't any more tolerant than I am when you state that I haven't lived in the true south. Marylanders' are constantly insulted by both sides: Northerners because they're from the South, Southerners because they aren't part of the "True South." Be careful when you make statements like yours, Hal, because they are every bit as offensive as mine (which truth be told, isn't very much.) | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 | | | | Last edited: by kdh1949 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting DJ Doena:
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Could someone fill my knowledge gap? Why are "Southeners" stupid?
Unfortunately, a stereotype has been created in the U.S. that people born and raised in the southern states, especially North and South Carolina, West Virginia, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi are all uneducated (another word for stupid). Part of this, I believe, is based on their regional accent as well as colloquialisms that are common there. The truth is, it is not based on hard facts, but is perpetuated by comments such as those made by kdh1949. An example of reading thing into comments that aren't there based on an inferiority complex. Contrary to Hal's assertion, "uneducated" is not "another word for stupid." One cannot help being stupid -- that's part of his make up, like having blue eyes. But someone who is uneducated CAN overcome that. Unless a person actually IS stupid, his lack of education can be corrected. Despite what Hal has asserted, the hard facts indicate that the standard of education in southern states is not as high as that of Northern (or Western) states. That is unfortunate, but is not just a stereotype. It has absolutely nothing to do with regional accent or colloquialisms, either. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting kdh1949:
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Don't be so thin skinned.
Another example of "I insult a whole group of people, and then tell them that it is their fault that they feel that they've been insulted".
No, another example of putting words in someone else's mouth.
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Maryland may be south of the Mason Dixon line, but until you have lived in the true south, you cannot appreciate the impact of statements like you made.
Bood away, Hal, but you show you aren't any more tolerant than I am when you state that I haven't lived in the true south. Marylanders' are constantly insulted by both sides: Northerners because they're from the South, Southerners because they aren't part of the "True South." Be careful when you make statements like yours, Hal, because they are every bit as offensive as mine (which truth be told, isn't very much.) So you consider it an insult if someone says Maryland is not part of the "true south". If so, I apologize. I am talking about culturally, not in terms of where a line is drawn on the map and not how the states divvied up during a war that happend 140 plus years ago. Culturally, Maryland is not part of the "south". It is not my fault that they sit geographically where they do and therefore bear many more cultural traits of the north than they do of the south. Perhaps it's a result of being so close to D.C. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,916 |
| | Posted: | | | | General Yosemite Sam begs to differ! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
An example of reading thing into comments that aren't there based on an inferiority complex. And where do you get off making this totally unfounded assertion. You know nothing of whom I speak. Stop playing psychiatrist! Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Contrary to Hal's assertion, "uneducated" is not "another word for stupid." One cannot help being stupid -- that's part of his make up, like having blue eyes. But someone who is uneducated CAN overcome that. Unless a person actually IS stupid, his lack of education can be corrected. You can make all the technical distinctions that you like (and quote Forrest Gump all you like), but to the common person, these terms are synonymous. Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
Despite what Hal has asserted, the hard facts indicate that the standard of education in southern states is not as high as that of Northern (or Western) states. That is unfortunate, but is not just a stereotype. It has absolutely nothing to do with regional accent or colloquialisms, either. Even if that were true, and I certainly do not concede it, it does not give you the right to stereotype everyone "south of the Mason Dixon Line" by inferring that they are all "uneducated", to use your word! But as we all know, there are certain groups that it's OK to ridicule! | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,016 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting kdh1949: Quote:
"Fixing" the errors in a cover is frequently subjective. Some people might, for example, want to change the spelling "color" to "colour" (or vice versa) based on where the live or what they were taught. While everyone would probably agree that if it were misspelled colro it would be wrong, but which should it be corrected to: color or colour? The locality of the DVD will tell you the answer to that one. I do agree with your position though, for the reason northbloke gave: you don't need to be able to spell well or have good grammar [or even understand the language, DJ], as long as you can copy what's on the back cover, you are able to contribute an overview. Locally, if it's a language I understand, I DO correct the typos though, because they annoy the hell out of me. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
You can make all the technical distinctions that you like (and quote Forrest Gump all you like), but to the common person, these terms are synonymous. Pardon MY lack of education, but since I have never seen Forrest Gump I wasn't aware I was quoting him. What was the quote I unintentially used? Quote:
Quoting kdh1949:
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Despite what Hal has asserted, the hard facts indicate that the standard of education in southern states is not as high as that of Northern (or Western) states. That is unfortunate, but is not just a stereotype. It has absolutely nothing to do with regional accent or colloquialisms, either.
Even if that were true {it is}, and I certainly do not concede it, it does not give you the right to stereotype everyone "south of the Mason Dixon Line" by inferring that they are all "uneducated", to use your word! I didn't "infer" anything. You think I "implied" that everyone south is "uneducated" which I didn't either. I just said that "uneducated" and "stupid" are not synonymous. If your "common person" thinks they are, then he is clearly one of the "uneducated." BTW: "uneducated" was your choice of words (from your original post) not mine. Quote:
But as we all know, there are certain groups that it's OK to ridicule! I reject the charge that I am ridiculing all Southerners by my "south of the Mason Dixon line" reference -- because, despite what you seem to believe -- my criticism was of the educational system in the South and not intended to ridicule people who grow up under that system. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,016 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
I can agree on the fact that Southeners are a strange people, it's no different in Germany. . Much the same here in the Netherlands. Take a look at this map. That "thing" dangling from our country in the bottom right corner is called the province of Limburg. They're the Dutch equivalent of Bavarians. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
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I can agree on the fact that Southeners are a strange people, it's no different in Germany. .
Much the same here in the Netherlands. Take a look at this map.
That "thing" dangling from our country in the bottom right corner is called the province of Limburg. They're the Dutch equivalent of Bavarians. Regional differences definitely aren't unique to the US. My grandmother was born in the US in the 1880s but both her parents were born in Germany. In school here in America my grandmother and her siblings were taught German, but her mother (my great-grandmother) always complained that what the children learned in school was plattdeutch. I understand great-grandmother had a sneer on her lips when she said this. Clearly she didn't like the type of German being taught to her children. | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,016 |
| | Posted: | | | | The Limburg dialect is probably closer to plattdeutsch than to official Dutch as well! At least, when trying to make sense of what Limburgians are saying, I often find myself translating through German... What I find funny (and fascinating) is how these regional differences seem to copy themselves from one country to another. Whilst our southerners (Limburgians) have some resemblance (in terms of characteristics) to Germany's southerners (Bavarians), I can think of similar parallels between the Frisians in the north of the Netherlands and the Scots in the north of the UK. Actually, a couple of years ago I was invited to Burns Night and urged to address the Scottish ex-pats that had gathered. I felt the best way to handle this was to explain the parallels between Scots and Frisians (and their respective views on the English and the Dutch) to them... | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Come on, Hal, part of the problem here is peo0le being PC all the time. You live in the deep south. I don't know if you were born there....my wife was born even deeper in Alabama> The difference is having a sense of humor, it is very boring going through life looking for things to be offended about, though we have plenty of people here who do just that. According to a poll reported earlier today Paris is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, its denizens are the least friendly in the world Brussels is the most boring. Having been to Paris and Brussels. I can agree with the first, I don't understand the second.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,488 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Come on, Hal, part of the problem here is peo0le being PC all the time. You live in the deep south. I don't know if you were born there....my wife was born even deeper in Alabama> The difference is having a sense of humor, it is very boring going through life looking for things to be offended about, though we have plenty of people here who do just that.
According to a poll reported earlier today
Paris is one of the most beautiful cities in the world, its denizens are the least friendly in the world
Brussels is the most boring.
Having been to Paris and Brussels. I can agree with the first, I don't understand the second.
Skip No body likes Brussel Sprouts.... | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting widescreenforever: Quote:
No body likes Brussel Sprouts.... I know I don't. Are they called Brussel Sprouts in Belgium? I've never been there, so I wonder if it's like French fries (pommes frites). (I've never been to France, either.) | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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DVD Profiler user since June 15, 2001 | | | | Last edited: by kdh1949 |
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