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Different UPCs – (Almost) Same Content
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
Registered: May 15, 2008
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I live in Canada and I'm finding quite a few DVDs that have UPC numbers that are not in the database but which have a title and content that is almost identical to a DVD (or DVDs) already in the database.  There are generally only three differences that I can find. The first is that my DVD usually has a slightly different case cover (like a small circle with a notation "Canadian Home Video and a 14A rating or some French wording added).  The second difference is that the Disc IDs are not the same as the UPC already in the database.  The third difference is that the Canadian release date is usually a week or so later than the U.S. release date.  Incidentally, in this later situation, I'm assuming it's the Canadian release date that should be used.  Is that correct?

Is there some way that I can use the existing database entry of another UPC which I find by Title and then change the UPC and Disc IDs to match my DVD?  This would save so much time in reentering all the information that has already been entered for the UPC number that is in the database.  The problem is that I can't find any way to change the UPC number.

Is there an easy way to enter the data for a UPC not in the database when almost all the information is already in the database under the same title but a different UPC?
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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you download the profile close to the one you need.
go to the dvd profiler menu: DVD
change Locality: Canada
if necessary change the UPC to your UPC (noted the old UPC on paper, you will need this)
check all the fields against your DVD, change where necessary
In your notes explain that you get most data from that old UPC and that you changed the data based on your DVD, DVD cover and movie credits on DVD and other sources that you used:
please follow the rules

if you have other questions come back here and ask them.
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
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Wow!  Thanks.  I just got started with DVD Profiler this week and I read as much as I could about how to use it both here in the Forums and especially the "Contribution Rules".  I don't recall seeing anything in the "Contribution Rules" about the "Locality" field located under the DVD menu that you've mentioned to me.  I now realize that my entire collection ought to have "Canada" as the Locality entry. 

I've already uploaded 7 UPCs not previously in the database; 5 have been released and 2 are pending.  I guess that I should go back and update these profiles to change the locality to Canada.  Is that correct?

Sorry for my confusion.  Perhaps a discussion of the "Locality" entry could be added to the "Contribution Rules".
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSebastien
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Have you replaced the cover scans with new ones, to show the differences and the new UPC?  You should never submit scans with the wrong UPC.  Also, SRP needs to be updated too.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
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No. I've never used an existing UPC as a template for a different UPC.  That's why I asked the question as to how to do it.

The 7 submissions that I've made so far were all for UPCs not in the database and I created the profile entirely manually; including my own scans and Dic IDs.  I think the only mistake I've made with these submissions was not knowing that I had to set the Locality to Canada because it defaults to the U.S.
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you have to change also you're settings in the dvd profiler:
dvd profiler menu: Tools > Options : the option windows opens
left hand side: defaults: Region 1 (if not so), Locality: Canada or Canada Quebec
select the regions you want to included for adding by title (region 2 (UK or France titles)
if your french speakin Canadian also go to the left hand option: System
and select Français Canada (that should be it, I think)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMardon
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Great.  This thread has been very helpful.  My Locality now defaults to Canada (English).

I guess the two 'Canadian issues' that remain are the Release Date and the SRP.  I have no idea where to locate the Canadian release date, which I think is generally about a week after the U.S. date.  Should I use the U.S. date or leave this blank?  And the Canadian SRP is something I would never know.  For new DVDs I'll know the purchase price but I'd have no way of knowing if this is the Canadian SRP.  How should I handle these fields?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantTheFly
Registered: March 18, 2007
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Should I use the U.S. date or leave this blank?  And the Canadian SRP is something I would never know.  For new DVDs I'll know the purchase price but I'd have no way of knowing if this is the Canadian SRP.  How should I handle these fields?

In both cases I'd suggest using Canadian online retailers such as amazon.ca - they should list both the SRP and the release date. It's best to verify at more than one site if possible.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSebastien
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You can use Amazon.ca, dvdboxoffice.com, futureshop.ca  or cinemaclock.com.  But, generally, release dates are similar to US releases.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSebastien
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One more thing,  Disc ID's tend to be the same between US and Canadian release.  And sometimes, US releases get a Canadian rating on the back cover scans.  What generally makes the difference between two releases is the presence of French as the second language, instead of Spanish.  Along with French wording sometimes.

About your 2 pending updates, I would withdraw and resubmit them, using the correct locality. It would be a more appropriate and accurate contribution.

Thanks for your contributions!
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I've already uploaded 7 UPCs not previously in the database; 5 have been released and 2 are pending.  I guess that I should go back and update these profiles to change the locality to Canada.  Is that correct?



please note that the locality is nothing to do with where you live - it refers to the DVD, So for instance although I live in the UK, when I buy a dvd from America then the locality is USA, and when I buy a dvd from a Canadian retailer then they are Canadian locality.
Paul
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